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2022 2 year olds   Handicapping

Started 7/2/21 by smartyslew; 169941 views.
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

1/31/22

Raes said "Even when it comes to morality, I find too many of them satisfied with what is called "virtue signaling". They talk a good game, using sophisticated jargon, but are unwilling to put it in the human investment; the blood, sweat, and tears, required to effect action and change. Therefore, the difficulties they ultimately face, tend to be too much for them. "
 

I have discovered the same thing with a few 14 and 15 year old's that I'm around

and Like you I blame us and that paragraph too. including your recent experience and 

in my case I was late paying attention to the new jargon and the meaning !

and the big changes made in their trials and tribulations to the pandemic.

  • Edited January 31, 2022 2:39 pm  by  smartyslew
Gerh

From: Gerh

1/31/22

We are the ones who handed out the “participation trophies”.You reap what you sow,I guess.

RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

1/31/22

I am done with all the woke language. They think they are the first generation to become aware of discrimination or bias. I have learned not to live in my feelings anymore. That’s all they seem to do!

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

2/1/22

I wasn't thinking about it that way, I understand now, you are educating us. 

Thanks for that !

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

2/1/22

3-year-olds: male or female Beyer leaderboard
through 01/31/2022 8f  plus distance
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Sweet Dutchess TAM 22 Jan 1M 94
Adare Manor SA 07 Jan 1M 92
Simplification GP 01 Jan 1M 90
Emmanuel TAM 30 Jan 1M 40Y 89
Newgrange OP 29 Jan 1 1/16M 89
Standup Comedienne TAM 22 Jan 1M 89
Call Me Midnight FG 22 Jan 1 1/16M 88
Epicenter FG 22 Jan 1 1/16M
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RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

2/1/22

I am surprised that Emmanuel got an 89 beyer. He hardly did any running except at the end when he put away Glider in a flash!

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

2/1/22

They gave Newgrange a 88,   ,he came from off the pace

Equibase gave both a 98. sounds pretty even.

  • Edited February 1, 2022 9:08 pm  by  smartyslew
Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

2/2/22

Everything changes.   Human beings hate change.  That is one commonality in every generation. 

Back in the day, employers had loyalty to you, and you to them.   That is all gone now.   We live in an age of globalism and that was going to happen regardless of anything that any politician did.   The world has gotten smaller due to the internet.  The world is a very different place than it was for the Silent Generation, and even for Boomers and for Gen Xers.   This next generation does not wish to work for non-livable wage and I sure don't blame them for that.   They've also seen their parents getting laid off in their 50s from jobs, etc.    So, they will approach things differently than we did.   I grew up before computers;  they never existed in a world w/out them.   They will also have climate change to deal with and other challenges that we cannot foresee.  

I meet enough selfish, entitled, bigotted, stubborn, lazy, racist people in my own age group to know that no *generation* is monolithic.    It's way too general by which to judge a whole group of persons. 

I trust they will find their own way, just like we did!   And, they will!     Every generation is defined by different events (no order) whether that be McCarthy hearings, Rosa Parks refusing to move to the back of the bus, Vietnam, Cuban Missle Crisis, the polio pandemic, an assinated President and assassinated MLK, The Moon Landing, Womens Rights, 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, OK city bombing, Rodney King, the OJ verdict, Columbine shootings, Iraq/Afghanistan Wars, Gulf War, Fall of the Berlin Wall, gay marriage, first nuclear power plants, election of our first black president, Bin Laden, Sandy Hook, the Great Recession, Boston Marathon Bombing, the Challenger Disaster, the energy crisis and gasoline shortages, cell smartphones..... and now Covid and political divides via Trump.....and the list goes on. 

People are shaped by events. And every generation is defined by its history which they are moving around in. Life is hard, survival is hard, we overcome.   Just like during the industrial revolution if you got your hands cut off in a machine you just went home w/out hands, and then you and your family starved to death.  (before worker's comp).  


I do understand what it's like to have a few bad experiences with younger people and in a snit (totally forgivable, we all have our bad days of feeling disappointed in the human race, been there done that RAES) and I get judgemental but they really are not all the same.  Just like we are not. 

I don't even know what "woke" means.  Being woke to me means extending kindness and compassion as much as we can muster, to other humans, to racehorses, and all who have physical life on this planet.   It ain't easy. 
 

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

2/2/22

I like Emmanuel though. I always take note of horses who don't start out running sprints and start their first race in a route.   That says the trainer knows something about the abilities of the horse.   

I am still holding out hope for one of my Classic Empire guys, like Classic Moment.  He is a good breaker and he has the right running style, was stalker/presser type for most of the race......just ran out of steam for the stretch.  Asmussen will put some stamina works into him between now and TC time I hope!  He also got Garcia who doesn't really ride that well at OP.   Asmussen is loaded again this year IMHO.  I'm thinking Call Me Midnight was a fluke and Epicenter is "the real deal" here from that FG race. 

Southwest Stakes is always won by the speedy horses, who end up running 15th in the derby, like tapiture, etc.  Other than Essential Quality the winners of this race they often don't don't tend to run 1st in the TC races, the Southwest just doesn't produce many EQs or Smarty Jones.  :)  SW is won by horses like Newgrange.  Even if he was getting points I would not worry too much. 

As I always say, I don't pay too much attention to TC races til around mid march when distances get longer 

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

2/2/22

Are we ignoring the foreign runners that "might" come over----anyone SEE anything on the horizon? 

Obrien's turfer, Luxembourg looked like a killer classic distance racehorse, long body,  but looks like he is aiming for euro races with most of his.....think he will bring over any suprises for us?   This is one gorgeous horse though---a big boy, w/white star, white socks, Danehill in both 3rd and 4th generations, one each on Dam side and Sire side.   
Family 8-f  DP = 4-2-12-8-0 (26) DI = 0.86   CD = 0.08 - 3 Starts, 3 Wins, 0 Places, 0 Shows 


Also want to ask, what is happpening with mcpeeks other runner, Rattle N' Roll and the other Classic Empire, Classic Causeway?   Will they be racing again in something soon or off the trail or what? 

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