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2022 2-year-olds/2023 3-year-olds   Handicapping

Started 7/2/21 by smartyslew; 190529 views.
Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

2/2/22

I like Emmanuel though. I always take note of horses who don't start out running sprints and start their first race in a route.   That says the trainer knows something about the abilities of the horse.   

I am still holding out hope for one of my Classic Empire guys, like Classic Moment.  He is a good breaker and he has the right running style, was stalker/presser type for most of the race......just ran out of steam for the stretch.  Asmussen will put some stamina works into him between now and TC time I hope!  He also got Garcia who doesn't really ride that well at OP.   Asmussen is loaded again this year IMHO.  I'm thinking Call Me Midnight was a fluke and Epicenter is "the real deal" here from that FG race. 

Southwest Stakes is always won by the speedy horses, who end up running 15th in the derby, like tapiture, etc.  Other than Essential Quality the winners of this race they often don't don't tend to run 1st in the TC races, the Southwest just doesn't produce many EQs or Smarty Jones.  :)  SW is won by horses like Newgrange.  Even if he was getting points I would not worry too much. 

As I always say, I don't pay too much attention to TC races til around mid march when distances get longer 

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

2/2/22

Are we ignoring the foreign runners that "might" come over----anyone SEE anything on the horizon? 

Obrien's turfer, Luxembourg looked like a killer classic distance racehorse, long body,  but looks like he is aiming for euro races with most of his.....think he will bring over any suprises for us?   This is one gorgeous horse though---a big boy, w/white star, white socks, Danehill in both 3rd and 4th generations, one each on Dam side and Sire side.   
Family 8-f  DP = 4-2-12-8-0 (26) DI = 0.86   CD = 0.08 - 3 Starts, 3 Wins, 0 Places, 0 Shows 


Also want to ask, what is happpening with mcpeeks other runner, Rattle N' Roll and the other Classic Empire, Classic Causeway?   Will they be racing again in something soon or off the trail or what? 

Gerh

From: Gerh

2/2/22

Classic Causeway has been working steadily since the start of January.Rattle N Roll has just recently returned to work and is showing two 3f workouts

RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

2/2/22

That's what I don't like about Beyers. They are calculated in a vacuum, in my opinion. I think Newgrange worked a lot harder than Emmanuel. How that should affect the number, I'm not sure.

RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

2/2/22

I hear you. I tend to lose nuance when it comes to labor issues, though. Like you said, at one point you could get your hands cut off and get nothing. Labor demanded more, and received workers comp. We got shorter work days and weeks, better pay so out kids didn't have to work. Then salaries didn't keep up, and wives had to go to work, whether they wanted to or not. When that didn't help us keep up, we began to incur large debt.

Now out kids are experiencing some difficult times. At the same time we are not teaching them to how deal with crises. They have these great expectations, while lacking the resources or the mental toughness to deal with great obstacles. I know I am hard on them, but only because I care so much. I hate when I see some of those kids I coached, drop out of our program, because I know that a significant percentage of them will end up in jail or dead. I deal with inner city and poor children quite a bit, and I feel invested in their futures.

RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

2/2/22

Emmanuel has had everything his way thus far. Being my More Than Ready who is at the latter part of his stud career, I would love nothing better than for him to produce a winner of a TC race. I am afraid of getting too high on this horse, only to be disappointed. He is in pretty good hands, but I need to see him run a little harder having started so late. He will probably have two more starts before a possible Derby start. I hope as he will probably head to the stakes ranks, he is able to get the kind of preparation he will need for that 10f grind.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

2/2/22

Emannuel is playing catchup and that has many positives in my view between now

and May as long as he can stay healthy and no setbacks.

I agree with you ,running 1/16 mile in that race and he used less energy

and we don't have Dr. Romans data measuring energy used and I found that useful

in the preps ,but like you it's in our head and I make notes of it ,my memory isn't like it was.

I know you know others have shown low energy efforts and energy used is important

to gauge in the 9f races as the group matures and at that time its isn't just the ones today

that  use less energy it can be any of them stretching out as they get older and race by race

in April and late March 9f and 9 3/16 f. Battle tested and going in the right direction.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

2/2/22

Oh Winter you are so Woke and its contagious coming from you !

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

2/2/22

This race will be Important to see if Tiz The Bomb belongs on dirt

I haven't seen the entries, this has been reported and I'm excited if these 3 

are part of the field..

Meanwhile, the first Kentucky Derby qualifier of the Gulfstream championship meet is set for Saturday, with Mo Donegal, Giant Game, and Tiz the Bomb the top contenders in the Grade 3, $250,000 Holy Bull. About eight 3-year-olds are expected to enter.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

2/2/22

edit results.  winner In Due time beat Americon Icon by 5 lengths, after that one tired after 6f urlongs, 

Iron Works 3rd.  Graphic Details scratched, probable for Swale Stks 2/5/22.

 In Due time awarded E 100 for the win ,American Icon  90,

2/4/22   Race 9 Gulfstream Park allowance op Claiming $75,000 3 yr old's  8f dirt
Check and see how they do. Or this might be helpful to make a bet.

#3 American Icon 7/5  Saez/ Pletcher is on our Elite List to Stretch out
#1 Graphic Detail  9/2  Castellano / Mott  might be best at this distance and ? for 2 turns

#6 Iron Works  7/2  I Ortiz /Pletcher is scored as a Sprinter type who could win at this distance 8f

edit Graphic Details is cross entered in Race 5 Swale Stakes 7f dirt  6 entrants  on 7/5/22

  • Edited February 5, 2022 3:56 pm  by  smartyslew
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