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NYRA and CDI vs. Beta Bob   General Discussions

Started 9/10/21 by SameSteve G; 17666 views.
SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

9/13/21

Hey Pistol, always nice to hear from you.

The way I read the following is that Beta is out of luck when it comes to at least the '22 Derby.

“Points will not be awarded to any horse trained by any individual who is suspended from racing in the 2022 Kentucky Derby or any trainer directly or indirectly employed, supervised or advised by a suspended trainer,” the racetrack said in a statement.

I've been to every TB track in KY and even spent some time at the Red Mile watching horses pulling bikes, but I missed Kentucky Downs.  Thanks for the tip, my friend, because I was actually thinking about driving down next year just fill in a gap in my track resume.  Now I know to stay away.

princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

9/14/21

This is huge, Steve......he has a few very promising 2 year olds, can't imagine why owners wouldn't move them immediately, unless training by an assistant is a loophole?

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

9/14/21

The wording of CDI's statement does not leave a loophole.  The only reason I can think of why owners are keeping Derby prospects with Beta is because he's advising them to.  Maybe he thinks his attorneys will help him wriggle out and get to play in the prep season and in KD '22.

Advising them to find another trainer is tacit admission that the suspension is valid.  

princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

9/14/21

So, Steve, how did Montebello race at SAR a couple of weeks ago, a trainee of Beta Bob?

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

9/14/21

Prince, nowhere does it say Baffert cannot train and race horses.  The CDI ruling is for points races and the KD itself.

Baffert is allowed to race now at NYRA pending the new action that NYRA initiated recently - see post 1 in this thread. 

Are you toying with me man?  Was that a "gotcha" ?   Haha

princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

9/14/21

It looks like SF Racing conglomerate own a few, including Pinehurst, Rockefeller, and Montebello......and Baomi own Kamui and Enbarr...with Speedway owning Corniche.  These are all fine colts, a complete mystery how they continue to keep them in BB's stable

princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

9/14/21

No, not at all.....I thought he was suspended from racing in New York.

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

9/14/21

He was and then he was reinstated by judge and now NYRA is trying again.  It can get blurry, I agree.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

9/14/21

Deja  vu all over again; is  this week  the new hearing or next week.??

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

9/14/21

Hearing is set for 9/27   sunglasses

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