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Started 9/10/21 by SameSteve G; 23901 views.

From: DogsUpWired



I've noted in my Baffert dialogs that Churchill shoots from the hip and often ends up paying restitution.

Bob is going after them for his rights and dinner.

Many ask why owners stick with Baffert: (not specifically a quote to the event)

Friends help friends move furniture.

Real friends help friends move bodies. 


From: princeofdoc


Yes, but SF Racing and Starlight are really taking this to the limit.....their promising colt, Newgrange, still with Baffert, shipping to Oaklawn for the Southwest, a points race for the Derby.  They invest so much money into their horses, and it seems to be such a gamble to stay with BB, especially with the Derby on the line.  Either they know something that we don't (that Baffert is sure to be exonerated before the 50 pt. races begin, or their friendship is far more entangled than we imagine.

It's a complete mystery to me


From: DogsUpWired


Elsewhere here I noted state court ruled Baff (and AttorneyS) must first meet with NYRA. Which has begun. Monday.

Google Baffert News.

Owners can "switch trainers in mid stream."  

Dogs' take is that in life (and these dudes have plenty) relationships surpass the gold and stuff.

My friendships are enviable. So I take it that Baffert has Made very strong connections. But that 'be friendships.

And how it's done is one is there for the other.. No matter what.

Baffert didn't even want to go to the Travers with American Pharoah.. Rarely does NYRA circuit. So other than Belmont Stakes with the potential of culminating another TCer; and some select Saratoga 2 yr old races and fits in Spa biggies; he won't be dining at the track burger tent.

I think the biggie trainers are checking the waste baskets and feed tubs and AM shower hoses to double check that nothing like this will befall them.

There are actually trainers who have held a Vet degree.

As I said: It's not over til the overnurished lady sings 

Monmouth Park with now Casino, sports betting will attract Baff stable as trainer of record, and purses to subjugate Spa races. 

I got to lookup subjugate..LOL 

In reply toRe: msg 43

From: TexSquared


Kick the can down the road again... keep putting it off hoping it magically goes away?

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G


Unless they delay again, it's on for 2/14.

The fundamental problem I have with this circus is that the kind of "justice" Beta Bob will receive is not the same "justice" a nearly anonymous trainer would receive who could not distort the process with money and entitlement.

Of course, we know the racing world is a microcosm of the society and culture at large so there is no surprise in this.   However this turns out, the sport suffers.


From: TexSquared


I fully expect another delay on Monday... or I'll modify that to, this still won't be settled on Monday.  Let them prove me wrong.


From: DogsUpWired


The track(s) are say like the TV or subscriber broadcast networks. Venue.

The owners and trainers provide content. 

I wrote in my Derby Diary how these content providers have providence to control their content *horse campaign.

The Triple Crown venue is at 3 separate  biz entities. Enrollment to TC nomination is to a 3rd party.

So 'these guys and Dogs perhaps surmise also that a Triple Crown based on a record flurry of them in recent years will have a drought. This year I'd take 2/5 no TC winner.

The inventory of a crop seasons is shrinking like the value of a dollar.

So what will become is owner trainers will race elsewhere and those TV stations /tracks "will offer the primo content. And attract other horse not in dispute 

Sorta' you don't want me in the club...I'll go to the other clubs with their open arms.  PARX big day Penn Derby gave trainer and owner of CALIFORNIA CHROME an appearance fee of $100,000. Each. As fav finished 6th. Following his Dead heat for 4th in failed 3rd leg for TC in the Belmont Stakes.

The people over at Pimlico are praying that Bobski is out of the Derby and trainers don't switch over. PREAKNESS is a small field. So they Boost the purse; and for szuts and giggles Roberto runs the Super tick-et with his 4 entries. Likely 1st and 2nd place Derby finishers always resort to this one. And a shorter race not by much than TC; yet Likely Bobito's horses fresher. And trained to vindictive level. And he shames the Belmont. And again take a read of my notes in my Derby Diary that other tracks are with open arms and purse prushuto to cut into the Most Public annual race of once a year bettors proving the needed black type to their annual bottom line.

Can anyone tell me if the Medina Spirit Derby DQ as a meds list banned substance is exactly that; that was found in the post race drug test?

Or, was the drug in the legal application ointment-sav in the explanation found to be a derivative not on med list.

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G


DogsUpWired said:

Can anyone tell me if the Medina Spirit Derby DQ as a meds list banned substance is exactly that; that was found in the post race drug test? Or, was the drug in the legal application ointment-sav in the explanation found to be a derivative not on med list.

FYI, Dogs:

Mary Scollay, executive director of the Racing Medication and Testing Consortium and former equine medical director for the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission, says it’s not so clear.

The rule prohibits the presence of betamethasone,” Scollay said. “It does not specify beyond that. Valerate or acetate — doesn’t matter.

source: LA Times Dec. 3, 2021

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G


I agree.  I wouldn't bet a penny it goes forward.  Though, I hope it does.

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