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So, Steve, how did Montebello race at SAR a couple of weeks ago, a trainee of Beta Bob?
Prince, nowhere does it say Baffert cannot train and race horses. The CDI ruling is for points races and the KD itself.
Baffert is allowed to race now at NYRA pending the new action that NYRA initiated recently - see post 1 in this thread.
Are you toying with me man? Was that a "gotcha" ? Haha
It looks like SF Racing conglomerate own a few, including Pinehurst, Rockefeller, and Montebello......and Baomi own Kamui and Enbarr...with Speedway owning Corniche. These are all fine colts, a complete mystery how they continue to keep them in BB's stable
No, not at all.....I thought he was suspended from racing in New York.
He was and then he was reinstated by judge and now NYRA is trying again. It can get blurry, I agree.
Deja vu all over again; is this week the new hearing or next week.??
Do you think Jimmy Barnes will take a cut in pay and go out on his own and be a
trainer of record for some of these. I read somewhere the deadline for some
of the good hands working for these penalized trainers to go on their own is
9/28/21, anytime after that date they are part of the Penalized trainers team.
Have you heard this ?
I have no idea what Jimmy Barnes will do.
I did not hear anything about deadlines either. However, the first points race in the US is the Iroquois at Church on 9/18. Baffert cannot run because he's suspended in KY. Then, on 10/1 there is a points race, the American Pharoah, at SA. So, no one associated with Baffert can earn points.
Some media outlet will clarify this stuff sooner or later. I hope.
I am assuming any points by a BB horse will not be awarded or not count. Will a W just waste the top points or the points shift down to the 2-4 horses.
DRF article gives the answer. The points are gone. So if it's a 100-40-20-10 race (like the Santa Anita Derby) and the winner was a Baffert trainee, that horse gets nil, the second place horse (assuming not a Baffert) gets 40 (not 100, nor 140), the third place horse (again if not a Baffert) gets 20, etc. They don't treat it like a DQ where the first past the post is placed last and the runner-up gets the winner's benefits.
Churchill said that any points that would have been applied to a horse under the new rule “will be vacated.” The track also said that the rule would apply to the Kentucky Oaks, which, like the Derby, has a qualifying series attached to it. The Oaks, for 3-year-old fillies, is run the day prior to the Derby.