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NYRA and CDI vs. Beta Bob   General Discussions

Started 9/10/21 by SameSteve G; 19803 views.

From: princeofdoc


Paulick made an interesting point recently.....that should the ban go into effect in the next few days, Beta can use a loophole that would allow his entire barn, employees and horses both, be taken over by a retired trainer, for example, and continue to compete, even in the points races.  Not sure if he is exploring this or not.  It seems unlikely the ban will take effect; the courts will most likely allow a defense to develop to contest it, allowing for more time.  This of course will not alter the private company that controls CD from continuing their ban on Beta from acquiring points and competing in Derby.

Corniche is not in training, so it looks like his only possible Derby colt is Messier....he'll probably go in the SA Derby if ban is not upheld, and compete in an interesting contest vs. Forbidden Kingdom.  I'm guessing Pinehurst will go in the UAE Derby, and my other guess is that he'll send Black Adder to Turfway to run in the Jeff Ruby.  Doppelganger will probably also go in a short field in the SA Derby.  Taiba will be ready for the Preakness at earliest.

I love imagining the possible scenarios!  If the ban is upheld (crossing fingers), I do think Paulick's guess is quite possible; he has too many good colts ready to go, Derby aside....but it would also allow for points, even for Pinehurst.  In a wide-open Derby year, so much can happen!

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G


Beta and Ray have been going at it for years.  When Baffert had those incomprehensibly high number of sudden deaths in his stable, Paulick wrote a column that Beta took offense to.  Beta came back with a scurrilous ad hominem attack citing Ray's battle with drugs.  He more than implied that Paulick still had a problem.  We all know Ray is clean as a whistle.  How low can Baffert go?  Really, really  low.

All that stuff can be found in internet archives.

On the horsey side, guys like Baffert and Pletcher go through horses like tissue paper looking for the "one".   Like D Wayne before them in his hey day.

I root for them to survive, never mind win.

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G


The saga continues.  Arguments made and the decision whether or not to stay the suspension until Baffert has his day in court will be handed down by Monday.

Interesting read.  Beta Bob's attorney is laying it on super thick.  A suspension now will end poor Beta Bob's career.  That's complete BS.

The KHRC is sticking to the facts.  That doesn't always beat good drama.


From: pianot


Whats the odds he wrongly gets a reprieve? Say 1-5, you could almost see this happening. Sad.


From: DogsUpWired


Holy Moly...humbly Dogs is pretty-pretty well rounded in racing from gate to wire. This keeps up we'll all have a PhD in equine law, civil procedure, and a side of equine pharmaceutical. 

As the gang that can't run straight...the sample evaluated as science (these machines are super correct) should have been then put up against the rules..the rules. That's it.

The coming Derby will be fireworks about Maximum Security and The Sav that ate the Kentucky Derby.

The public is going to get more than their 2 minutes worth. 

Betcha Bob is on the back sports page in the NY tabloids come 1st Saturday.

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G


If this were a race, I'd keep the money clip in my pocket.  

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G


DogsUpWired said:

This keeps up we'll all have a PhD in equine law, civil procedure, and a side of equine pharmaceutical. 

You ain't kidding.


From: TexSquared


What a joke.  I hope this judge laughs Bob and his lawyer out of the courtroom.  90 days isn't a lifetime suspension nor would a $7500 fine bankrupt him.

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G



"Beta Bob" has morphed into "Boo-Hoo Bob" right before our eyes.  Playing the victim.


From: smartyslew


Here is the last free Past performance and entries at our site here for Baffert, looks like he's done for awhile.
click  on this link and  click on Bob Baffert at the Free past perfomances list with the trainers and owners that
gives this site freebees. Thank you Cindy and Tex.

8th Race - Santa Anita Park - Sunday, March 20th, 2022

ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING. 1 1/8 Mile Turf. Purse $72,000. FOR FILLIES AND MARES FOUR YEARS OLD AND UPWARD WHICH HAVE NEVER WON $15,000 TWICE OTHER THAN MAIDEN, CLAIMING, STARTER, OR STATE BRED OR WHICH HAVE NEVER WON THREE RACES OR CLAIMING PRICE $80,000. Weight, 124 lbs. Non-winners Of Two Races Other Than Maiden, Claiming Or Starter At A Mile Or Over Allowed 2 lbs. Claiming Price $80,000. (Rail at 20 feet). (04:44 PM) (11)
PP Horse A/S M/E Wgt Jockey Trainer
1 Moonlight D'oro 4 F 122 Prat Flavien Mandella Richard E.
2 New Heat 5 M L 122 Baze Tyler Saavedra Anthony K.
3 Rocking Redhead 5 M L 122 Cedillo Abel Baltas Richard
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