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Kentucky Derby 2022 DogsUp Diary   Triple Crown - HRN Horse-Races.Net

Started 12/2/21 by DogsUp; 52613 views.

From: ChiefsCrown


Hey who would've thought Emblem Road ( WPS,$229--$66---$29) would pull off the upset. Two turf horses in 2 years win the Saudi Cup.

Mandaloun, Mishriff and Art Collector....biggest disapointments yesterday.

$1 super----$177K, not a bad payout for less than 2 minutes of work!

Cash anything?


From: DogsUpWired


My Key Delta horse did not hit the board in wheeling a ticket construction. Nor at Oaklawn biggie yesterday. 

As my piano player would probably say: You're playing in the wrong key.

LOL maybe we should box the whole d#amn field and AEs.


From: ChiefsCrown


Empty the vault, so to speak??

Came up empty yesterday!


From: DogsUpWired


For both races I spent very little. And tight constructions. 

As posted above herr I was at 2 for 2  win column.  Knew, had a feeling a tap out was coming.  Especially when favs look like a Free Square.

I think I'll name the outcome of the 20 who make the Derby; and if in the 5 big 100 pointers outcomes do not produce dominant horses; do not elevate on to the general public radar...HODGE PODGE crop of 3 yr olds.

That's a hopeful. And the cheap umbrella and rain parka sales guys make a killing all Derby week.


From: ChiefsCrown


You are right Dogs about a HODGE PODGE list of derby horses this year.

No real standout like in the last 5 years. Maybe i'll put the 20 names of the derby entries on my dart board and the first 3 to hit that's my trifecta ticket!!


From: smartyslew


Maybe it's the Baffert effect, trainers might be afraid of masking their meds and feed, and ointment applications

breaking down to the zillionth nano measurement . a ointment can mask a joint that has pain or arthritis, etc, 

Medinas leg joints were in terrible condition for a young horse reported from the Autopsy. Not saying this is the case,

but it could be., crops are getting smaller, looks like graded types smaller from the herds each year. Not enough horses to fill conditions

forcing trainers to move, deep pockets racing out of town more from their headquarters. I agree with you, no standout yetm

that could change.


From: pianot


I think we got liar cheater out. Other than that honestly wide open.

In reply toRe: msg 89

From: Wintertrian


I think its ironic that before this race the Big Boys from the U.S. were expected to do something... yet Equibase is "allergic" to putting up a chart for a race where almost 30% of the horses in the race were U.S. horses.   

Just like they are allergic to putting up any information at all about any foreign horse running in the Derby in the PPs.  

Racing in the big races is international now.   Even our own Derby.  They need a person at Equibase with their own department, who can rustle up the information for the customers, and Equibase in 2022 desperately needs to recognize the inclusiveness of horses from all over and have a section for this now.  Its like putting out a catalog of Product and leaving out 30% of your inventory. In 2022.

Meanwhile, other than Saez and Pratt, we did horrible for that entire series, probably should have stayed home----and I have to go to the foreign sites to even get the semblance of a race chart because I was not able to watch those races that day. 


From: DogsUpWired


PP Chart makers have never had the ambition to attempt to convert foreign PPs into some practical semblance of review; save a bold face number or two. Probably because the can't. 

Come Derby homework week it's like reading and calculating US runners in English and race number mathamatics; then one has to figure in why a sheik entered 2 horses;  flew them in, separate airplanes, last minute and little quarantine time. 

There were 2 as such described in Bird's Derby. Dogs was a lost puppy.

Then there's a Derby/ Daddy Long Legs type.

A toss. Out of the gate colt decided he would not have me worry from gate to running last. 

Derby ticket construction should have at least 6 beat-me tosses.

14 field.

But the KDy out-of-towners as 3 yr olds paper work for PPs really ruins the making and baking of the ticket recipe.

The greatest 2 minutes is when the Dogger says this is it!  This is the final ticket construction. No changes, no rearranges, no detours.

I do like a horse being scratched that's a don't like him in; what if I leave him out. 

Happened in Chrome Derby. Qustionable-iffy horse I stuck in scratched real late. Luck had it then that the one I drew in from the beat-me-s ran 2nd.

Can't remember the Derby colt shipped in from ?. Ran lousey in KDy.

Went home and ran the board. 

Hoofnote: Baff is still at it to BE the trainer of record in the Roses review.


From: Wintertrian


It's PATHETIC that Equibase does not have a chart for this race.  No excuses, 30% of the horses were from the U.S. in the race.   I didn't get to watch it, I just wanna read a chart about the darn race.