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Kentucky Derby 2022 DogsUp Diary   Triple Crown - HRN Horse-Races.Net

Started 12/2/21 by DogsUp; 52394 views.
DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

3/2/22

Some sites foreign horse stuff  FYI. 

Dogs only evesdrops the 2 big foreign races. Foreign horses in KDy and Breeders C.

In a nut shell,  US data PP Result chart companies do not chart foreign is that they would have to keep All the data, all of the time to then automatically migrate the info to new PPs or chart results.

A full US chart is available about less than an hour following a race.

For the most part this is migrated info to the standardized Chart.

https://www.racingtv.com/racecourses/king-abdulaziz

https://www.racingtv.com/racecourses/king-abdulaziz

TexSquared

From: TexSquared

3/3/22

Equibase doesn't do traditional charts for foreign tracks.  Why the PP lines for those races just give the final running time, where the horse placed, beaten lengths, and maybe a short running comment (similar to if not identical to what you see on Racing Post result charts). Because that's all that most tracks outside North America supply. 

To post a full Equibase style chart would require fractional times being taken AND 1-a chartcaller measuring the beaten lengths at each point of call (as is done at most North American tracks) 2-A digital horse-tracking system like Trakus or TPD that does this automatically to generate the chart (used by NYRA, Woodbine, Churchill Downs, Santa Anita...)

Tracks that use Trakus or similar systems MIGHT post race charts using that data, that simulate what Equibase does - Hong Kong does this, and sometimes Dubai.

If you've never seen the raw TPD data before, this is a real eyeopener:

http://www.gmaxequine.com/tpd/public/sectionalsframe.aspx?ShareCode=81202202261722&k={83F76141-4793-4825-ACDA-C8D1B88B272B}

Play around with the "Choose Data" menu on the bottom.  The arrows next to the fractional times across the top, will sort the field for you in order of what data you chose -- so you could see (for example) which horse was the fastest in MPH over each 1/16 mile segment of the race.    If you choose Cumulative time, then you're seeing each horse's times along the way, not just the leader.

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

3/4/22

Thanks for that link, Tex.   Will be very fun to explore it!

TexSquared

From: TexSquared

3/4/22

Enjoy!  I wish this was available for every track!

DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

3/6/22

https://images.app.goo.gl/iV42gDYbwNQ4cwYQ7

To date estimate the Derby line will look like this barring any under the radar in 100 pointers.

To date belive an owner, trainer or jockey believes their colt Didn't getta-lot out of the race.

As The Derb provides 110 + change@ 6, 135-tickish @ mile. Gotta be around at 148+ 9fl. 

A pop-in like Kdy Bodemeister late comer would take some attention.

Jockey race the overlooked up in the irons Plavin Prat.

Blue Plate Blueboard special: M/L + Off fav., add late jockey swap- switch for voo-doo calculation in Fountain of Youds Tri paid over $2,000.

(d)

In reply toRe: msg 97
DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

3/6/22

Horses not nominated to Kdy during the early phase can be made with a $6,000 late payment due by Monday, March 28. There were nine late nominations last year. 

(d)

In reply toRe: msg 98
DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

3/6/22

Dec-2

On December 2, 2021 Dogs dropped some dog cookies as Follows. Said:

My crystal dog bowl has me thinking:

Goldolphin 

Doug O'Neill colt

And scrutiny of a colt that will emerge on the radar list due to the inheritance of a colt that Baffert forfeited.

Long shot jockey Kent D.

And a Japanese entry.

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Well, here's the BOGO Free to the Goldolphin  + Japanese predict. Pretty sure the G-peeps can rustle up 6K. 

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DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

3/6/22

Japan leader about a mile.. front of this colt is so Goldolphin bred.

https://youtu.be/_GIMPc87_lc

In reply toRe: msg 100
DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

3/7/22

The point math sans Baff moot placements however makes the numerous horses in the bottom 10 to 14 needing another Dby point race to add up to a place in the 2oGate. And no Lasix is only counted. Especially with the 100 + 40 pointers ahead 

*Corniche (Breeders’ Cup Juvenile winner), Messier (2nd at Los Alamitos Futurity), Barossa (3rd at Los Alamitos Futurity), Newgrange (Sham Stakes & Southwest Stakes winner), Rockefeller (2nd at Sham Stakes), and Blackadder (1st at El Camino Real Derby) did not receive any qualification points due to trainer Bob Baffert’s suspension by Churchill Downs Inc. through 2023.

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