I don't feel like doing to much work this year. I'm going to simplify things by not looking outside the 12 post for the winner. I will sort things out between eight horses; 1, 3, 5-8, 10, 12. I may construct an exacta from that group as well.

I think the track may be dry by derby time. 36% chance of showers, less frequent in the afternoon is what I’m seeing now. I like Epicenter or Messier on top, with some bombs sprinkled into the 2-3 slots, which I have yet to determine based on odds, foundation, etc., along with closers Zandon and Mo. Gives me at least an outside shot at a decent hit.

EZ's got 1 mud race in @ Saratoga w/Good rating.

I didn't like her last race @ FG where she barely beat (nose) Hidden Connection whose speed ratings are labeled as poor.

I have EZ in a possible super. I think she gets lower exotics.

She'll be tracking Yuugiri for the lead, maybe a pace meltdown will ensue opening it up for my 3.

Who you got?

'1:12-  for six fl Derby was estimate Derb speed. Based on PPs, and the mix now, think faster than 12.

Take the under

I like Zulu, Secret, and Nostalgic with Nest in a box.

Like the play, good luck on Friday!!!!

You too.

How did this KY Derby topic turn into the Oaks topic?   

Is there a Topic for the Oaks?  Seems like there should be, I didn't see one. 

Nobody will find the Oaks in this topic is my thought. 

 

It’s always under 1:12.  But it’s got to be a lot under like Bodemeister (‘12) or Palace Malice (‘13) to knock the ones in front out.

You r right. How about a 1:11 or more? I'm just not sure this group can run.