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Toss for the WIN spot   Triple Crown

Started 4/22/22 by Wintertrian; 11025 views.
Northof64

From: Northof64

4/23/22

Raced 4 times since late December with 3 of those 1 1/16 or longer so good foundation. Improving figures with every race. Broke through the starting gate and ran on but reloaded and still ran 3rd in la derby. Fairgrounds has produced some good longshots in the past and if you like ZoZos don’t you have to like Pioneer? Could be this years Bluegrass Cat. How did I do? Need more? :) North

RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

4/24/22

So far it's Summer Is Tomorrow. Too much sprinter/miler pedigree. I know he ran well in the UAE Derby, but that was against a questionable field.

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

4/24/22

A possibility for clunking up the exotics though.

sovereign1

From: sovereign1

4/24/22

You are right with improving figures. I had to watch his "worst" race (finishing 4th in the Risen Star). Sure, he was beaten by monster Epicenter, but it was a crowded 2-3-4 finish next to two other deep closers in a race that had an upbeat pace. I'm wondering if he would have more in the tank if he ran 2nd flight, but then again he is not shown to have that extra gear. He seems to be more of a front-end grinder.

ChiefsCrown

From: ChiefsCrown

4/24/22

If the Bris pp's are correct Summer ran 5 2/10 slower than Epicenter at the same distance. Definate throw out!! I think he ends up near the rear of the pack possibly last place...just sayin'

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

4/24/22

I don’t really care for his breeding any more than Raes but if the front end is holding up derby day and he gets on the right lead in the stretch I could see him hanging on for a piece.  It’s possible anyway lol.

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PISTOL9

From: PISTOL9

4/25/22

As of right now, I am only considering two for the W spot depending on works, post and field.  So 18 others is too many to go over.

  • Edited April 25, 2022 12:07 pm  by  PISTOL9
Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

4/26/22

Oldbettowin said...

I love Early Voting but it looks like they might wait for the Preakness.  If they could get him to slow down just a little….

The fact that they've been so-so about him running made me lose a bit of faith.  I really don't know what to think now.  

 

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

4/27/22

It’s going to be interesting if EV and CC both stay in, giving the race some quality speed, something it hasn’t had much of in recent years.  We’re all so used to the merry go round with a high E/P type winning….

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

4/27/22

Oldbettowin said...

It’s going to be interesting if EV and CC both stay in, giving the race some quality speed, something it hasn’t had much of in recent years.  We’re all so used to the merry go round with a high E/P type winning….

Indeed!   I can tell you that I am even considering adding Tiz to my picks if he's 30-1 or more.  The KY Derby is all about making a big score AFAIC.  Any race, any day of the week, is easy to wager the 5/2, 2-1, 9/2 and the 5-1 in a superfecta.  That isn't much of a score. 

So i hope they do stay in.   I think EV will have pretty good odds? If he drops out I will be happy to see Pioneer of Medina get in.  And would love to see Barber Road hit the board....they are sticking with Reylu, they are a very loyal type of connections, down to earth, not going to toss their rider for some "big name", and trainer John Ortiz is a truly nice guy.  He was a hot walker for Bill Mott. 

Actually, at the rate people are tossing Simplification I may not have to bother with Tiz.  :) 

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