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Gimmick Exactas or other gimmick wagers Triple Crown
From: smartyslew
4/30/22
Horses I like that the trainers raced on lasix at least once, Charge It, Zozos, Un Ojo, Cyberknife, Taiba !
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- Edited April 30, 2022 2:36 pm by smartyslew
From: Oldbettowin
4/30/22
How about the Storm Cat box? He’s kind of taken over this race. Starting with Am. Pharoah 5 of the 7 winners have had SC in either their sireline or their dam’s sireline.
Zandon-Epicenter-White Abarrio-Zozos-Simplification-Classic Causeway-In Due Time. And Pioneer of Medina if he gets in.
Might not be a bad way to pick a bomb for 4th place either.
- Edited April 30, 2022 2:31 pm by Oldbettowin
From: smartyslew
4/30/22
You little Thief 
how about the S Cat/ Fappiano nick either side . THats good 2
lt's Better Than the S Cat/ Mr P nick either side
- Edited April 30, 2022 2:38 pm by smartyslew
From: SameSteve G
4/30/22
The Trainers First Derby Exacta Box
Courville/Lynch/Ortiz/Seemar/Shintawi/Yakteen
or the horses:
Taiba and Messier/Crown Pride/Summer Is Tomorrow/Barber Road/Classic Causeway/Un Ojo
From: DogsUpWired
4/30/22
"The Trainers First Derby Exacta Box"
First rodeo.
'The' race everyone with a stake in racing wants to win.
Everybody asks racing peeps: "Did you ever win a Derby?"
I'd say; yes; but do you have to listen that it took me 11 months to know I won the 2 minute race.
From: Wintertrian
4/30/22
SameSteve G said...
A DQ free Derby would be good. Change things up.
Unless they freeze the samples for 10 years as USADA would require, there is no way to know now about drugs.
Everyone that ever got caught like Lance Armstrong tested "clean"......add a few more names to that list.....that's because they know what they are *doing*. Cheaters are cheaters, but they ain't dummies.
- Edited April 30, 2022 6:03 pm by Wintertrian
From: SameSteve G
4/30/22
100% correct, WT. I have my private suspicions about a few of these derby trainers having some top shelf chemists moving around molecules to keep their marinara sauce undetectable.
The reason the USADA gave up trying to come to an agreement with HISA had to do with how long samples could be frozen. This is not a point of debate for USADA because, as you know, they are a signatory of the WADA and WADA prescribes a 10 year freeze of samples.
I'm all for HISA, BTW, just hope their new drug/medication testing partner is up to snuff.
Fingers crossed on that.