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Cyberknife The Talk of the Morning Workouts   Triple Crown

Started Apr-26 by OldForesight; 1761 views.

From: Oldbettowin


Wow.  That was kind of out of left field wasn’t it?


From: Wintertrian


OldForesight said...

You responded to my post and I replied to your comments.

Yes, I responded----and part of my response was that I disagreed with you when you said "I still hope most of you will continue to regard the Arkansas Derby as weak."  

I disagreed because, for a later prep race on the road to the derby, the entire field of 9 had 7 horses who had only won maidens or allowance races.    That is not a typical Arkansas Derby, and not a typical prep race in the month of April before the KY Derby .  

So, what part of my post "offended" you?  Was it just my stated belief that it was a weak race?  

(I guess I don't understand the point of starting a topic if you don't want a *discussion*)   33:23

This isn't the only one.  We have track announcers (probably even the one from OP as well), jockey agents, well known cappers saying the same thing.  It was sort of an "embarassment" because our track usually hosts some pretty potent races, and this year...........that didn't happen. 

But that also does not mean your horse isn't a good horse.  And I also said that.  



From: Gerh


The vibe is that he was always a very good work horse.I was impressed with his Arkansas Derby in that he showed he was push button.I am a little worried about his pre race antics and he needs a stronger finish.In his allowance win before the Arkansas Derby he beat Strava by about six lengths.That’s about the same distance that Tawny Port beat Strava by.Seems like a well balanced field this year.

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A few horses are working well. I liked the works of both Crown Pride and Charge It. The former is interesting. His only poor raace was over a muddy track, so they better hope CD is not wet, as it often is Derby weekend.


From: OldForesight


I did not come here to impose my opinions on anyone. I am not a tout!

When I like a horse, I always state the reasons why I like the horse. Besides, Cyberknife is not the only horse that have gotten my attention. I commented about Mo Donegal and Early Voting and how impressive they were in the Wood Memorial. I talked about Charge It and how his maiden victory was visibly the best I have seen of all the 3yr. old. I also said the experience Charge It got from the Florida Derby will give him the biggest improvement going into the derby. 

I have yet to convince myself which horse I will bet on in the derby so trust me, I was not trying to convince you of anything.  

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From: princeofdoc


I like that you share your reasoning unabashedly, Foresight!  Thanks!


From: Wintertrian


OldForesight said...

I am not a tout! I have yet to convince myself which horse I will bet on in the derby so trust me, I was not trying to convince you of anything. 

Believe me, it never crossed my mind that you were a tout.   (THOSE don't come out til AFTER the post position draw, when all the "products" come out from the Talking Heads.)

 I love seeing people's picks before that happens-----they are honest picks.   So good luck with your horses.  

Once the "products" come out I pretty much ignore whatever the Talking Heads talk people into (people who haven't done their own handicapping.)  Obviously you have done the work.   

I just like "discussing" people's picks this early on.   It's pretty much what goes on on this board in the KY Derby topic every year.  Someone likes a horse then someone else responds with reasons they they may want to consider for not liking them.    Normal Operating Procedure here. 

Feel free to argue against a horse I really like, Simplification.  I can think of at least 5 reasons to not like him.  But I do like him, so I will stand by him regardless.