Going Zulu, Nest, Nost, Secret with Zandon, Simp, White, Crown, and Epi for $1. $20

What the locals do is pick out one or two in the Oaks and bet them ALL in the derby.  If your filly wins the Oaks you know you have a winning ticket in your pocket no matter how dumb you are on Saturday.  I wouldn’t attempt it this year though with the rain and the Oaks field being so loaded.

Secret Oath, Shahama and Crown Pride, Epicenter,simplification,Taiba can be good double 

Ravi Gowande

Pedigreestar

Went back and took a closer look at Kathleen O.'s last race. She was wide throughout the first half of the race, and blew them away, nevertheless. She is off the AP Indy line as well, so she may like the slop. I may join you.

I did Kathleen O to Messier, a single mainly to have action on the Oaks.

If it comes in Echo Zulu-Taiba it’ll be the first Oaks-Derby sire double (Gun Runner) in over 50 years.

Cyberknife

Well yeah; I was just replying to Cubs’ wager.

Oaks Derby Double

Echo Zulu, Kathleen O, Turner Loose,  Nest  /   Epicenter, Crown Pride, Charge It, White Abarrio

I got an open ticket... Went Big 4 and most of my picks 3.5.8.12.13

I am getting on Simplification as big longshot... Listening to yourtube and guy say he had 2 good excuses last time out. A win is doubtful