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Travers Stakes   General Discussions

Started 8/25/22 by Wintertrian; 2682 views.
DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

8/26/22

The trainers have noted the track is not tight. Deep. For meet  Goggle it. Sent a link but no go.

If you watch Friday or Thurs mile and eighth...get your mount up at 6 fl. Closers or those behind don't overcome the dirt conditions, example strategy due to surface. 

In Trav perhaps game over at mile 

Rain Friday. Will watch early races both dirt + grass. Play pick 5 beginning 7th.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

8/27/22

Travers 8-27-22: the odds are suspect imo.
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 Best speed at distance:7 Early Voting 104 6 Epicenter 103 2 Rich Strike 102,Zandon 100,
Won at distance: Early Voting 104(G1)Rich Strike 102(G1)Epicenter 101(g2)
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Back Speed :111 Early Voting 107 Epicenter 106 Zandon 104 Cyberknife 102 Rich Strike 99 Artorius 96 Gilded Age NA Ain't Life Gran
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pars:E1 E2/LATE SPEED,94 104/ 93 104
Cyberknife 84,99, 103 104(9f), Epicenter 84,92,117, 107(9f)
Early Voting 108,118,85, 104,(1 3/16) Zandon 87,95,111,106(9f)2nd
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Last Q 25.40 or faster, with bris  late pace number adjusted for variant. 
Cyberknife 23.89-103, Epicenter 24.59-117*,Rich Strike 24.75-103 Derby
Zandon 24.78-111, Artorius 25.26-104,Early Voting  25.33-105
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Lasix free: Rich Strike, Epicenter, Early Voting, Zandon : My Trifecta Box for giggles a repeat of the Derby ! LOL
and Supersize it !heart_eyes
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Saratoga - Saturday, August 27th, 2022, Race 11
STAKES. 1 1/4 Mile Dirt. Purse $1,250,000. Runhappy Travers S. (Grade 1). FOR THREE YEAR OLDS. This is a Non-Lasix race pursuant to 4043.2 (7)(e)(5) Lasix not permitted within 48 hours of post time. By subscription of $1,250 each which should accompany the nomination; $9,000 to pass the entry box and an additional $9,750 to start. For horses not originally nominated, a supplemental payment of $12,500 (along with the entry and starting fees) may be made at any time prior to the closing of entries. The purse for the Runhappy Travers shall be divided as follows: $670,000 to the owner of the winner, $230,000 to second, $125,000 to third, $85,000 to fourth, $50,000 to fifth, $35,000 to sixth, $30,000 to seventh and $25,000 to eighth. Weight 126 lbs. Trophies will be presented to the winning owner, trainer and jockey. Closed Saturday, August 13, 2022 with 12 Nominations. (05:44 PM) (8)
PP Horse A/S M/E Wgt Jockey               Trainer                           distance record
1 Cyberknife P3   2G1W 9f 3 C L 3rd,5th r 126 Geroux Florent Cox Brad H.  7-2            1-0-0 -0   56
2 Rich Strike  S   1G1W  10f 3 C 126 Leon Sonny Reed Eric R.   10-1          1-1       102
3 Ain't Life Grand P3     3 C L 8 races 126 Gaffalione Tyler Von Hemel Kelly R.  20-1   0-0
4 Gilded Age  S 3 C
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TexSquared

From: TexSquared

8/27/22

Another useful URL to bookmark for free PP's...

Just change the date (usually by 10PM ET, the next day's PP's are there) to get the PP's for all the graded stakes in North America for that day. Here it is for Travers day:

https://www.equibase.com/tdn/pastperformance.cfm?rd=2022-08-27

DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

8/27/22

Glad you posted. Kono just returned to site and it was a heads up to his saying

 "The added clay should speed up the track if they scrape it like they have in the past."

He now has got the memo

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

8/27/22

smartyslew said...

Winter said,,      "I figure that is why he didn't run in the KY Derby. "

I'm guessing you thought I was talking about Early Voting, I was talking about Cyberknife !

Let me know, I better edit my message.

no, I was simpy addressing your note about "hard to figure out pace" .........I thought you meant for most all the horses in this race due to reformulated track, etc.......

smartyslew said...

Winter said,,      "I figure that is why he didn't run in the KY Derby. "

I'm guessing you thought I was talking about Early Voting, I was talking about Cyberknife !

Let me know, I better edit my message.

  and then I decided to add a note about EV, i.e he was weaving in stretch in Preakness, for instance.  

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

8/27/22

smartyslew said...

Lasix free: Rich Strike, Epicenter, Early Voting, Zandon : My Trifecta Box for giggles a repeat of the Derby ! LOL

Basically that was my line up in my opening post......except I'm replacing EV with the Mott horse. 

I hope at least 2 of those run in the tri. 
 

Not wagering anyway though. SAR doesn't interest me much and I don't feel like watching all the races to figure out how the track is playing.  Good luck to all!

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DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

8/27/22

1st 3 races on dirt runner on lead early (4 Fl) won. 2nd to winner 2nd. 

Don't see Epi to close on speed time ahead of him and track surface. 

Race strategy will be early.

Get out and stay out. Pow! moves have to begin at 6 Fl  

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DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

8/27/22

Cyber gets out, but from gate 1; knows the break will be quick due to all jocks knowing the loose track will not be kind to closing with nothing to offer. Behind will be forever. 

By 5 Fl navigate a path strategy. At 6fl with 4fl to go; the next 3fl with hopes his time in Haskell can be repeated; full out; a look back at the field...finish the last eighth.

And Joel and Prat know going too early ruin all chances and mother nature has made her surface call. 

They all know how to ride a horse. When to ride is the difference.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

8/27/22

I like the idea of those 4 lasix free running 1-4  they deserve it imo.

Epicenter, Early Voting,  Zandon  Have the Best numbers at Saratoga 103 or higher.

I will probably put 1 in a box  with the 4 Lasix free, Hard to use the wiseguy Cyber never raced at Toga

Has gone 4 races without Lasix , has never run 3 good races in a row without lasix in one of them.

might add Artorius won a stks 9f at Toga awarded a 99, only 3 races 91 95 99 Arrogate/ Ghostzapper

is interesting this time of year.

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