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Travers Stakes   General Discussions

Started 8/25/22 by Wintertrian; 2676 views.

From: DogsUpWired


. Ain’t Life Grand will have to run without Lasix for the first time as he moves into graded stakes company for the first time. Toss. Others no use for many months.

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From: twoshots


Early Voting is the value play for me. A huge advantage over all of them in early pace, albeit he might not get 10f. If he can’t, I like Zandon to pick up the pieces. I won’t be surprised if Epicenter bounces in this one, gets caught after chasing the pace. I won’t touch Rich Strike, he showed lack of composure after his Derby win and before the Belmont. Myself, I expect he’s run his best race.

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From: DogsUpWired


Jackie spotted 6 lbs to field on this meet's crunchy surface.

Yet I didn't use as free square as beaten it would be 'the ticket.




I just noticed the race is on TV,  so pulled up PPs  I might try to work in the Iowa bred on a ticket


From: pianot


Sorry but ran poorly.

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From: Wintertrian


Pace played out exactly as I said it would, Cyber and Aint Life Grand got sent,  (except ALG didn't take any starch out of Cyber who tried to steal it),  Artorious ran like I thought a maiden would against G1s, and EV stalked and didn't go out for the lead but stalked in 4th/5th and never made it to the finish line in time, and Zandon hit the board like he always does. 

I couldn't get past Epicenter here and glad he won and that Rich Strike proved he is no a pretender.  

Just didn't think Cybernife would hang on but he did, props to him and Cox.   


From: DogsUpWired


Cyber went out too early. 111ish.

Used up a bit too soon. 

Should have done 112 ish*.

Then had a bit more. Cox didn't ask Dogs :-)

Epicenter will need his best Bree Cup. The crop and resultant G1s show this crop crew wanting.

May not hit the board against BCC seniors 


From: smartyslew


Way to go right on.

The 4 from the Derby filled the Super and I structured my ticket where I got a profit on my bet

I't didn't pay much, 1st,3rd,4th  place were Lasix free Early Voting missed, I missed the tri.

the pace was perectly framed ,Epicenter sat behind the Pace and pounced, Cyberknife hung on for 2hd

the other speed backed up and Zandon and Rich Strike kept coming . Epicenter Runs like he loves the Spa

2-2, did he finally break 102 Beyer > LOL, I dunno he won

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From: TexSquared


Photos from Travers day:

Travers Stakes (G1) won by Epicenter

Undercard stakes


From: Wintertrian


Northof64 said...

My only thought is if you play Gilded Age you need to include Artorious. I see Early Voting fading again in this one. As you say Zandon has never beat Epicenter and I don’t see it here either. Cyberknife is progressing better than most here and I feel he is a must include

I was happy to see Early Voting stalk back in 4th/5th.   It was like I was looking over Brown's shoulder when he gave instructions to the jockey before the race and it came to me while posting ......he was NOT going to go to the lead and get involved with a speed duel (and rosario would not have been dumb enough to let Epicenter do that either)...not after the Wood or the Jim Dandy.   Plus I think it's more than clear now why EV was not in the KY Derby at 1-1/4 and certainly not in the Belmont at 1-1/2.  He really is a 1-1/8th horse, at best......I think it's important to look at trainer's intentions like this w/out even having to DO any actually handicapping with numbers.    And even in the Preakness EV was drifting all over the place at the end.    

I knew Cyberknife WOULD be sent, along with Life Is Grand, mostly because of Post #1.   Thing is, Cox must have had a ton of confidence in cyberknife's stamina abilities, because to go out like that and finish 2nd was pretty good, I give him props. 

I'm just happy when I get part of the pace "figured out" but admittedly did not think Cyberknife would hold on.  He's  like  summer bird for me,  I simply cannot warm up to him, and it cost me (not in the Travers since I didn't wager).  But there are just horses I cannot seem to really like?

Brown should not have thrown Artorious to the dogs like this, he was basically a "maiden with potential".  He's one of those like Rock your World, the entry in a race that "scares people", and then they turn out not scary at all.  It just proves that G1 horses win G1 type races.   Epicenter not being a G1 but I always included him as BEING ONE neverthless.