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Started Dec-3 by nybiased; 358 views.

From: nybiased


If you had the money to buy whatever unprofitable(ex casino)small track you want, with the goal of eventually making money without needing the casino(if the track has one), which track would you buy, and how would you get there? What renovations? What race days? What post time? What is the attendance goal? What would admission be? How bout purses? How much off track handle is the goal? On track handle? 

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From: nybiased


I think that you MUST draw at least 4000 people on average to the track to succeed as a small track. Average 5000 people betting an average of $60, that’s 300k in on-track handle. Average $5 admission, that’s 25k right there. Get 900k in off track handle, plus concessions. Average 170k in purses. I am not sure how much the track gets from the on-track and off-track handle.


From: DogsUpWired


Aqueduct does 3000 to 4000 daily large track.

Saratoga 17000

Small track maybe 100 for just simulcast 

Tracks are free admission + some parking

The link below details splits 


From: nybiased


Thanks for the link. Almost all racing attendees either don’t care or realize the good or bad quality of the local racing, as long as it’s a decent facility and a fun day/night out or will go regardless. Proof? Look at Canterbury compared to Aqueduct, Lone Star to Santa Anita, Emerald to Gulfstream. Fair tracks get more people than a majority of tracks in the nation. Simulcasters can be deceived too. Much more handle for 5k claimers at Tampa than 10k at Fair Grounds. It can be done if tracks really care about the racing product.