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Gotham Stakes, AQ, Sat 3/4/17   General Discussions

Started 3/3/17 by Wintertrian; 637 views.

From: Wintertrian


Gotham Stakes (G3) Aqueduct, Saturday, March 04, 2017, Race 8

1 1/16m


J Boys Echo (KY)     Robby Albarado      116    Dale L. Romans       8/1

Gaetano (KY) Cornelio H. Velasquez        116    Guadalupe Preciado 50/1

Miggsy (KY)  Angel S. Arroyo      116    Rudy R. Rodriguez   15/1

El Areeb (KY) Trevor McCarthy     123    Cathal A. Lynch       6/5

Glennrichment (KY) Eric Cancel    116    Rudy R. Rodriguez   30/1

True Timber (KY)     Kendrick Carmouche 116   Kiaran P. McLaughlin         6/1

Apartfromthecrowd (FL)    Jorge A. Vargas, Jr. 116    Chad C. Brown        12/1

So Conflated (FL)    Mario Gutierrez       120    Doug F. O'Neill        8/1

Cloud Computing (KY)       Manuel Franco         116    Chad C. Brown        5/1

Action Everyday (KY)         Rajiv Maragh 116    Todd A. Pletcher     10/1


I like True Timber here, who is on my derby list.  

Will play w/Cloud Computing, So Conflated and El Areeb.   




I won't bet against El Areeb in this one. He hasn't beaten much to date, but he has beaten them the way a good horse should.

In reply toRe: msg 2

From: DogsUp


Delta horse is: Conflated.

Should be ready to handle the chemical treated dirt after one plastic and 2 western tracks' dirtski.

Working 3 six furlong AMs from the people who brought you

I'll Have Another and Nyquist.

Jockey Mario is actually the big gun Derby Tri Crown bosso in this one.

In reply toRe: msg 3

From: Wintertrian


El Areeb could barely get past this field.

If the results were in the opening quarter, I would have had the trifecta  LOL



From: smartyslew


i think i fell into the inner track trap and over estimated el areeb this year.
2nd time in the last 15 years or so i have done that with a young horse
and i can't remember who the other one was.

i don't think the high weight of 123 pounds had anything to do with it
or maybe i'm wrong on that pt, giving up 7 pounds to most of the field.


From: Gerh


I'm not ready to give up on him just yet.He carried 7lb more as you mentioned but also did all the dirty work up front.The two that finished in front of him got nice trips.It is also worth noting that this race was originally in the plans for El Areeb;Lynch decided to take a shot as the horse was training so well.I would have liked to see him off the pace more but the race didn't pan out that way.Still think he could rebound in the Wood


From: smartyslew


i think it was Alpha, this time of year in my top 10,

i try to put one from new york on it to spread to cover prep areas.
stay thirsty i liked after he won the gotham , not before.

el areeb was more of a vision and not a pedigree, like the rest of this years crop.

its hard to get excited this year and keep interested with all of the pppp speeed dominating
and getting perfect trips for their style and pace of the race.




What do you think of Cloud Computing? I thought he was the most impressive horse in the race. The track was playing slow, so he ran on well considering he was so close to the pace...and in his second lifetime start, and first routing.


From: smartyslew


i would love to see one more race from him,i hope its not in Ny.

fivestaryak and i discussed him before the race and we had him as one to watch finishing in the race
and coming out of the race for later,

i think i have only one from the ny group by design in my top 20, looking to see
how the 9f prep turns out in the wood and if any race in a prep elsewhere.
recent history suggests thats how to track that group, but you never know when a area
will get stronger and j boys number wasn't to bad and computing lightly raced could jump up
next time and i find his pedigree interesting, very interesting.  

i forgot to mention its an inner track thing in the winter. almost nothing to read for the derby!