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2017 kentucky derby   Triple Crown

Started Mar-27 by smartyslew; 47399 views.
PISTOL9

From: PISTOL9

Apr-16

That is more of a Baffert move.  I bad mouth TAP for many things, but one thing is I don't think he will play those games to keep others out.  A few years ago I remember him scratching one of his early enough so an AE could get in.  I think he mad the comment about not wanting to do that to someone else.

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PISTOL9

From: PISTOL9

Apr-17

Those in the sire future, looks like possible ten for the field if I got them right, with three more on the outside looking in.:

Girvin TaleofEkati
Thunder Snow Helmet
Gunnevera DialedIn
J Boys Echo Mineshaft
State of Honor ToHonorandServe
Malagacy Shackleford
Hence StreetBoss
Fast and Accurate Hansen
Battle of Midway SmartStrike
Cloud Computing MacCleansMusic
AE
Untrapped TrappeShot
Lookin At Lee LookingatLucky
Sonneteer

MidnightLute

Really only one that I am liking to have a chance off this list.  I am afraid he may become a wise guy horse and get over bet, hence I will not mention the horses name.

fivestaryak

From: fivestaryak

Apr-17

For the most part, MRPs get their derby winners early.  Crops by D/P/B winners:

1st: 4-2-3 Grindstone; Funny Cide; Street Sense; Mine That Bird; Hansel; Funny Cide; Hansel; Summer Bird; Palace Malice

2nd: 4-5-4 War Emblem, Smarty Jones; I'll Have Another; American Pharoah; Point Given; War Emblem; Smarty Jones; I'll Have Another; American Pharoah; Lemon Drop Kid; Point Given; Ruler On Ice; American Pharoah

3rd: 2-2-2 Thunder Gulch; Real Quiet; Real Quiet; Afleet Alex; Thunder Gulch; Afleet Alex

4th: 0-1-3 Exaggerator; Conquistador Cielo; Editor's Note; Birdstone

5th: 1-2-1 Unbridled; Timber Country; Red Bullet; Victory Gallop

7th: 0-2-0 Tanks Prospect; Curlin

8th: 0-0-2 Empire Maker; Drosselmeyer

9th: 0-0-1 Commendable

10th: 0-1-0 Lookin At Lucky

13th: 0-0-1 Jazil

22nd: 1-0-0 Fusaichi Pegasus

1st: Cloud Computing, Always Dreaming

3rd: Lookin At Lee

4th: Classic Empire

5th: Hence, Irish War Cry

17th: Battalion Runner; Battle Of Midway

API, ND & SC for the derby should be easy to figure.  They have picked up their game after leaving CD.

Just more junk.

Gerh

From: Gerh

Apr-17

Mario Gutierrez confirmed to ride Irap

PISTOL9

From: PISTOL9

Apr-17

That is understandable, often, especially with a high profile stallion, they will get their best mares in their first year.  I remember Bernardinis first 3yo crop, they were everywhere and winning everything early on, just like UM last year.  Both tailed off from an explosive first year.  I want to say something about another first yearer this year, but do not want it to bite me, so I will refrain..

Pick-4

From: Pick-4

Apr-17

Wynn's Las Vegas Current Kentucky Derby Odds Monday 4/17


Classic Empire 5/1
Always Dreaming 6/1
Irish War Cry 7/1
McCraken 8/1
Girvin 8/1
Gunnevera 10/1
Gormley 12/1
Practical Joke 14/1
Tapwrit 14/1
State of Honor 20/1
Hence 25/1
Battalion Runner 25/1
Thunder Snow 25/1
Patch 25/1
Conquest Mo Money 28/1
J Boy's Echo 30/1
Battle of Midway 30/1
Local Hero 30/1
Lookin at Lee 30/1
Local Hero 30/1
Royal Mo 30/1
Irap 35/1
Malagacy 50/1
Sonneteer 50/1
Fast and Accurate 75/1
Untrapped 75/1
cubs.fan

From: cubs.fan

Apr-17

The field currently has only one runner with an LP of 100+ (Gunnevera). Lots of horses backing up in front of him, I hope they use their turn signals.

RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

Apr-17

LOL. Turn signals and brake lights!

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Apr-17

di higher 4.00-
---------------
always dreaming 5.00, cd .90
classic empire 5.00 cd 1.00
 j boys echo 4.09, cd .89
malagacy 6.20 cd .89
sonneteer 5.00 cd 1.00
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cd higher 1.00
 none
--
dp points =14 pts
n/a
--
0-0 dp stam pts
irap, iwc,always dreaming,practical joke,
j boys echo,state of honor,malagacy,
hence,cloud computing,untrapped
conquest mo money,lookin at lee
sonneteer,
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classic pts dominate
girvin, irap, iwc,t snow ,s of honor,
f and accurate,mccraken, untrapped
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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Apr-18

I go to DRF and pull up the Derby Points.

Mont Saint Legame was the first horse to acrue "derby points"......he has 40 and is nominated.

Why is everyone leaving him out?

 

Like Lani, he is the Cattle Sho winner.  

 

FWIW, DRF doesn't even make *mention* of any of the Japan horses in their derby points list.  it's like foreign horses with points don't even *exist*. 

Didn't Epicharis earn a "guaranteed" spot?  

I understand that the Japan Road is separate from the regular Road to the Derby, but the Cattle Sho awarded 40 points to winner and the Hyacinth awarded 50 points to that winner.  Right?  Both those races qualify as an "in" ?  

 

EDIT:   oh wait.  Just read on Cindy's page http://www.horse-races.net/library/derby17-points.htm

JAPAN ROAD TO DERBY

  1. Epicharis (JPN) .. 50 .. $451,195 (not going)
  2. Mont Saint Legame (JPN) ... 40 ... $90,154 (not going)
  3. Adirato (JPN) .. 20 .. $155,278 (not going)
  4. Caucus (JPN) ... 16 ... $35,850 (did not qualify, not in top 3)
  5. Foggy Night (JPN) ... 5 ... $23,922 (did not qualify, not in top 3)

D'oh.   I'm an idiot.  I had no idea they weren't going til just now  LOL

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