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I hope Game Over can hang around his morning line of 12-1 for this race. He's very inexperienced compared to some others in here, but I think he has as much raw talent as any.
Given his dam, I would have tried to book Curlin, but Bernardini will do. Agree about his odds...I'll take a flyer on him. His bms, Soto, and Graeme Hall are similar with some quality to them. Good spot for him to take a leap.
Will wonders never cease? The Ohio Derby has come up as a rather interesting race. Game Over is a talented one, no doubt & the price, if it holds, is generous. I think it's a good value play.
On the other hand, there's little value to be had backing the horses who ran in The KD. They will be overbet. I happen to like, as horses, both Girvin & Irap but I'll try to beat them. Untrapped tends to hang so if he overcomes that big negative, more power to him.
There appears to be enough early speed in here to create contention up front & maybe even a fast early pace.
If that comes to pass, it sets up nicely for Sorry Erik (6-1 m/l) who will be running late. Is he good enough? I don't know but if I take a flyer it will be on this one. And, perhaps a little exacta using Game Over up & down.
My sentiments exactly about the Classic also-rans. I'm not familiar with Sorry Eric, but I will check him out.
Erik needs a hot pace. I like that he's going turf to dirt but 6/1 might be a little too low because he is a cut below the others. I'm on the fence at that price.
& ALL - GAME OVER Saddle Cloth 1X was off slow, in traffic and won @ 7fl at Churchill/ May 14th in second career race Alw 50K (won 1st @ Oklawn 2 for 2 ~ 6fl)
GO's Time 121.4 (tick off Groupie Doll's record) and is spotted four pounds by other 3 yo favs in this one and has carried weight assigned 120.
Sire Mindshaft. 84 Beyer @ Church 7 furlongs is very stingy for that one. If able? Continue on for just two furlongs (and has shown he can run late hitting 7 furlongs at that time) perhaps in mile and an eighth Ohio Derby - 9fl.
Won't be surprised if after 8f's it will be 'game over', but worth a shot at the right odds. As mentioned given his dam, Curlin best; Bernardini will do as closest to Mineshaft...iffy with that bottom nick--couple generations removed from Casino Drive. The stretch from 7f to 9f's shouldn't be a problem but foundation and Class might.
His dam's closer family got Concept Win, Earn Your Stripes, Major Impact and Package Store. I'll include him because Silver Lord came out of Game Over's family and finished second in the Mineshaft Handicap.
So all the 1's are a combined entry?
Unforutnately, I like Irap or Untrapped.
I think Untrapped can stretch out nicely and been waiting for him to race again .
The runner 1X should come out of the gate and rate the runner for the 1st 2 furlongs then set the runner in his known style and stride for the last 7 flings that's the 9 furlongs.