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Kentucky Derby 2018 ~ DogsUp ~ Delta    Triple Crown

Started 11/11/17 by DogsUp; 35597 views.
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DogsUp

From: DogsUp

12/17/17

Avery Island is included as one of a couple dozen horses listed in Churchill Downs Winter Book #1.

Wynn Casino he is 5th lowest odds 1st book. Five deep Wm Hill also.

This guy is not under the radar. Sigh

A Delta horse always is what it is!

  • Edited December 17, 2017 11:36 pm  by  DogsUp
princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

12/18/17

Horses that win points races as two year olds are the opposite of "under the radar"....they are the ones that John Avello at the Wynn chooses to be the favorites for the futures bets, and WH always follows suit.  The only utr horses you can get good bets/prices on these days are the ones you find that either win maiden races impressively AND are trained by utr trainers (i.e. not Baffert/Todd/Brown).  Other opportunities are turfers (Catholic Boy) that somehow elude notice.  I got him at 150-1 the day of racing in a points competition!

Your "delta" horses seem to be ones that have performed well in a stakes/points race.  They will never be good futures prices....but may end up good prices on day of, depending upon public perception of the horses that make it to the gate.

I clearly gamble a bit to get a good price.....yesterday I bought a ticket on Combatant at 150-1 as he was entered in a new points race, the Remington Mile.  He went off the fave and came in a respectable 2nd to Greyvitos.  Don't know how he'll fare later on, but he was worth the 150-1 bet.  I don't see Greyvitos lasting 10 furlongs, but who knows.  That race certainly went under the radar for the futures bets....

RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

12/24/17

As we wrap up 2017, let me extend best wishes for the holiday season, and a Happy 2018 to all on the forum, and their loved ones! Let the Derby Trail 2018 begin!

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DogsUp

From: DogsUp

12/24/17

Good health, contentment, peace and joy.

And some signers in 2018.

And I don't mean a group of people who communicate to the deaf.

Enjoyed our year here together.

Thanks Tex & Cindy and my compadres.

Enjoy the trip.  Life's and racing's. (d)

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

12/24/17

Yes we agree. Above it is noted the colt... is not ...under the radar.

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

12/24/17

Best to you, Rae & all our forum friends.   Every day is a gift.  :)

RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

12/30/17

Well this is the last weekend to avoid the dreaded "Apollo Curse"!  Keep an eye out for horses trained by superstitious folk, that may think that there's a difference between starting a runner December 31st and January 1st. However, I must admit that I saw one last weekend that really intrigued me. He may not be a Derby horse, but he sure looked like an extremely talented one.

Speightstown may be better known for producing fast horses, but he has also shown the ability to produce a router here and there. Remember travers winner, Golden Ticket? Last Saturday Mark Hennig sent out Strike Power at Gulfstream in a 5.5f sprint, and he just blew away the field despite not showing exceptionally fast works. His time of 1:02 3/5 was just a tick short of the track record, and never felt the whip. His dam sire is Medagla D'Oro, and we know how hot he's been. Keep an eye out for this one!

Happy New Year, everyone!!!!!!

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

12/30/17

Thanks, I'll keep an eye out.  When it comes to the youngsters, you're E.F.  Hutton.  ;)

Happy & healthy New Year to all our forum friends!

RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

1/2/18

While you're at it, keep an eye out for Ax Man. Baffert missed the December 31st deadline with that one, but he looked nice breaking his debut New Year's Day at SA. I haven't heard much from Misremembered with his first crop, but maybe this one will give him some notoriety.

princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

1/2/18

Amazing debut!  One wonders what took so much time to get him to the races, as he had quite an extensive work regimen?  Now what does Baffert do.....enter him early Feb. in an Alw. race at two turns, then the San Felipe in March if all goes well?  Leading up to the SA Derby....it could work!

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