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belmont stakes contenders updated conduit Triple Crown
From: smartyslew
6/9/18
i think i said 1.56 index i think would be a new record both of these with the 0 in the middle (C) are mostly sprinter
i thought i sent you the bc sprint data back in the day when we were doing the bc races and that was long time ago.
you said as I don't see how that, plus his DI = 1.74 CD = 0.42 indicates a sprinter? i never said anything like that,
did you get the email i sent you about free drop billy.
From: Wintertrian
6/9/18
yes, i got it, I deleted my post here so never mind. And thank you. :)
I need to learn more about reading profiles.
From: smartyslew
6/9/18
from Bill Lathrops formula
Justify cmp 10-3-4-6-7 speed 13 stamina 13 index 1.13, triads 17-13-17 ( that is positive)
1h noontime conduit winner yes furlong distance 11.5
hofburg IS cmp 12-4-1-5-10 speed 16 stamina15 index 1.12 triads 17-10-16 (high in the wings B & P) balance 2d dazzling no=derby winners yes, furlong 11.5
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bravazo C cmp 6-3-4-6-6 speed 9 stamina 12 index .86 triads 13-13-16
A 10 no furlong 12.6
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Blended citizen BC cmp 8-6-3-7-7 speed 14 stamina 14 index 1.04 triads 17-16-17 ( balance & positive) 9e no, family yes furlong 11.83
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vino rosso C cmp 5-2-5-7-6 speed 7 stamina 13 index .71 triads 12-14-18
-2f no furlong 13.4
free drop billy BS cmp 10-4-0-10-5 speed 14 stamina 15 index 1.20 triads 14-14-15
4m no family yes furlong 11.3
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restoring hope B cmp 10-5-0-6-5 speed 15 stamina 11 index 1.56 triads 15-11--11
11 no family yes furlong 10.27
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1L no, family yes furlong 11.04
From: smartyslew
6/16/18
message 45 I added the cmp furlong distancefor each horse from the cmp guru's formula
gronkowski and vino rosso had the 2 furthest distances. (top 4 , 11.5 furlongs or better)
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-2f no furlong 13.4 4th place
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1h noontime conduit winner yes furlong distance 11.5 WINNER
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From: smartyslew
6/16/18
from message 19 top 4 for stamina number
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justify 13, gronkowski 14,hofburg 15, vino rosso 13,
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top 4 conduit classification
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justify CS, Gronkowski P, Hofburg IS, Vino rosso C
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From: Oldbettowin
6/16/18
Hey rob, dumb question, and I know that Mr. Lathrop is retired, but did he update his research after his original work? I think I read somewhere once that he analyzed something like 16,000 races to compile his original data. Just wondering if there have been any changes of consequence, or if that original data pretty much did the trick since we were already so far removed from 1900. I guess if the theories about mitochondrial dna are correct, they should be passing along the same ol stuff generation after generation, at least in lieu of mutations.
From: smartyslew
6/16/18
yes, he updated every year from his first year thru 2010 good for 2011 season
with 20 only copies and i was one of the 20 that received one and bad health
forced him to retire and close his site.
then his health improved some and he has a site that he updates classifications
and new conduits and posts them from A thru Z at this site.
if one wants to update the cmp profile for a horse you have to go thru the conduits
for all 16 horses in the 4th generation and using their classification for each 16
and use his formula for the cmp and index and other formulas in his book and some data
and formulas that were not in his book bill sent me thru e mails and i first paid for his info 13 years ago
some of the other 20 to receive his last book are Simon Bray, Kathleen & Barry Irwin, i'm not sure
if rich perloff got his last book. more breeders use bill's book than cappers .
- Edited June 16, 2018 5:30 pm by smartyslew