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belmont stakes contenders updated conduit   Triple Crown

Started 5/22/18 by smartyslew; 5205 views.
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/9/18

i think i said  1.56 index i think would be a new record both of these with the 0  in the middle (C) are mostly sprinter

i thought i sent you the bc sprint data back in the day when we were doing the bc races and that was long time ago.

you said as I don't see how that, plus his DI = 1.74 CD = 0.42  indicates a sprinter?  i never said anything like that,

did you get the email i sent you about free drop billy.

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

6/9/18

yes, i got it, I deleted my post here so never mind.  And thank you.   :)

I need to learn more about reading profiles.  

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/9/18

luv you to!!!
Good luck today

In reply toRe: msg 1
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/9/18

added the cmp furlong distance for each horse
from Bill Lathrops formula
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Justify      cmp       10-3-4-6-7 speed 13   stamina 13   index 1.13,  triads 17-13-17   ( that is positive)
1h noontime  conduit winner yes  furlong distance 11.5 

hofburg  IS  cmp      12-4-1-5-10 speed 16  stamina15  index   1.12 triads 17-10-16  (high in the wings B & P) balance  2d dazzling no=derby winners yes,  furlong 11.5
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bravazo C  cmp     6-3-4-6-6  speed 9  stamina  12  index .86  triads  13-13-16
A 10 no   furlong  12.6
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tenfold I   cmp   7-5-2-5-6  speed 12 stamina 11  index 1.11  triads 14-12-13
3n no , family yes furlong 11.6
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Blended citizen BC  cmp  8-6-3-7-7 speed 14 stamina 14  index 1.04  triads 17-16-17 ( balance & positive) 9e no, family yes   furlong  11.83
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vino rosso  C cmp 5-2-5-7-6  speed 7  stamina 13 index .71 triads 12-14-18
-2f  no  furlong 13.4

free drop billy BS   cmp 10-4-0-10-5 speed 14 stamina 15 index 1.20  triads 14-14-15
4m no family yes  furlong 11.3
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gronkowski  P   cmp 7-3--0-3-11  speed 10 stamina 14 index  .68  triads 10-6-14
9f  no, family yes  furlong 13.66
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restoring hope B  cmp 10-5-0-6-5  speed 15 stamina 11 index 1.56 triads 15-11--11
11 no family yes  furlong 10.27
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noble indy  cmp 9-3-4-4-6 speed 12 stamina  10 index 1.25 triads 16-11-14
1L no, family yes  furlong 11.04
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In reply toRe: msg 45
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/16/18

message 45 I added the cmp furlong distancefor each horse from the cmp guru's formula
gronkowski and vino rosso had the 2 furthest distances. (top 4 , 11.5 furlongs or better)

gronkowski  P   cmp 7-3--0-3-11  speed 10 stamina 14 index  .68  triads 10-6-14
9f  no, family yes  furlong 13.66  2nd place
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vino rosso  C cmp 5-2-5-7-6  speed 7  stamina 13 index .71 triads 12-14-18
-2f  no  furlong 13.4  4th place
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Justify      cmp       10-3-4-6-7 speed 13   stamina 13   index 1.13,  triads 17-13-17   ( that is positive)
1h noontime  conduit winner yes  furlong distance 11.5   WINNER
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hofburg  IS  cmp      12-4-1-5-10 speed 16  stamina15  index   1.12 triads 17-10-16  (high in the wings B & P) balance  2d dazzling no=derby winners yes,  furlong 11.5   3RD
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In reply toRe: msg 19
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/16/18

from message 19 top 4 for stamina number
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justify  13, gronkowski 14,hofburg 15, vino rosso 13, 
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 top 4 conduit classification
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justify CS, Gronkowski P, Hofburg IS, Vino rosso C
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Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

6/16/18

Hey rob, dumb question, and I know that Mr. Lathrop is retired, but did he update his research after his original work?  I think I read somewhere once that he analyzed something like 16,000 races to compile his original data.  Just wondering if there have been any changes of consequence, or if that original data pretty much did the trick since we were already so far removed from 1900.  I guess if the theories about mitochondrial dna are correct, they should be passing along the same ol stuff generation after generation, at least in lieu of mutations.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/16/18

yes, he updated every year from his first year thru 2010 good for 2011 season

with 20 only copies and i was one of the 20 that received one and bad health

forced him to retire and close his site.

then his health improved some and he has a site that he updates classifications

and new conduits and posts them from A thru Z at this site.

if one wants to update the cmp profile for a horse  you have to go thru the conduits

for all 16 horses  in the 4th generation and using their classification for each 16

and use his formula for the cmp and index and other formulas in his book and some data

and formulas that were not in his book bill sent me thru e mails  and i first paid for his info 13 years ago

some of the other 20 to receive his last book are Simon Bray, Kathleen & Barry Irwin, i'm not sure

if rich perloff got his last book. more breeders use bill's book than cappers .

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

6/16/18

Thanks, it’s fascinating stuff.

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