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Belmont post positions   Triple Crown

Started 6/5/18 by Oldbettowin; 6000 views.
fivestaryak

From: fivestaryak

6/8/18

Thanks, Robm.  Blended Citizen (MRP/HYP/ND/BOIS) with no stamina chefs, especially with Langfuhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr is a tough one.  Should be interesting since he is from that nick with 9 winners (MRP/ND) or 10 if you want to throw in (MRP/SC) and both Thunder Gulch (MRP/HYP/ND/x) and Sarava (x/HYP/ND/BOIS) previous winners with no stamina chefs.

Tapit/P or Tapit/ND is some concern...he'll need to keep bringing those NP bms with decent dam families.  

Interesting bunch...even if the big one doesn't finish it off.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/8/18

any sire have more than 3 winners of the belmont ?

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/8/18

see if you can learn anything from this for the tapit concern'
8 generation female linebreeding
compare it to the 8 gen male linebreeding and look and note at the 5 gen. pedigree

TAPWRIT C, 2014 DP = 6-9-12-1-0 (28) DI = 3.00   CD = 0.71
Horse Inbreeding Stats Crosses Lines Blood% Influence AGR
SOMETHINGROYAL
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/8/18

you know how bad the nor dan /br nick is for the derby, look at something royal and natalma
they are not compatible in the belmont . if hofburg wins he will be the first for this angle.

Something Royal and natalma and/or  her dam almahmoud have never been 
on the same chart for this angle for a belmont winners chart. Hofburg has all 3 toss for the win
style is ok for itm, since 1900 gallant man is the only belmont winner with a higher percentage 5.42 %
than hofburgs 5.314% but gallant mans who is good to go. 1957 winner
toss free drop billy for the same angle, but with these 2 contenders like crest says, one of these days
hofburg has some positve females besides S royal,aspidistra, knights daughter, la troienne
could be one of those days.
HOFBURG C, 2015 DP = 6-11-16-1-0 (34) DI = 2.78   CD = 0.65
Horse Inbreeding Stats Crosses Lines Blood% Influence AGR
NATALMA
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fivestaryak

From: fivestaryak

6/8/18

I have Lexington with four.  Tapit is in good company with Man O' War but given the eras, Tapit's feat is pretty impressive with nothing but good mares waiting in line.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/8/18

lexington with 4 , lexington/ leamington were quite a ,pair i think virgil and hindoo caught lexingtons daughters

all good lines.

look at how many tapits are out there in the next 2 crops. lots of P/N i'm sure.

somebody will get a jump start on that angle with deep pockets and the percentage of culls

will go up if they are buying off of 1 furlong works. i'll look for some homebreds.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/8/18

i edited message 90 gallant man won the belmont not the derby.

those linebreeding charts for females are dups angle in a 8 generation chart

thats puts their progeny  7th generation or closer.

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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/8/18

here is what a freaks up close influence looks like
8 gen female linebreeding chart
with 8 gen male linebreeding chart displayed underneath

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justify is in a world of his own, 

he is the only horse i have seen with 4 daughters of mr p in his pedigree
and has the rasmussed factor from 2 of them by Narrate, by honest pleasure/nijinsky
JUSTIFY C, 2015 DP = 5-6-8-1-0 (20) DI = 3.00   CD = 0.75
Horse Inbreeding Stats Crosses Lines Blood% Influence AGR
NARRATE 5s x 5d preach, yarn (rf) by mr p 2
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PISTOL9

From: PISTOL9

6/8/18

fivestaryak said:

Hofburg and Noble Indy's nick has one winner in Rags To Riches.  I separate API out from BR but I guess the BR/ND will do with SC thrown in.

I view lines different when it is fillies or colts.  Much different mixing going on there.  I count that as zero.  But that is part of what kept me off Nyquist for KD

cubs.fan

From: cubs.fan

6/8/18

I counted 12 lines of 1-x in Hofburg's 9-gen pedigree. Of Derby runners Magnum Moon was next with 9, followed by Justify, My Boy Jack, and Promises Fulfilled with 7.

  • Edited June 8, 2018 8:28 pm  by  cubs.fan
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