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Are 20 too many?   Triple Crown

Started 5/5/19 by GoForGin; 2856 views.
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GoForGin

From: GoForGin

5/5/19

I guess y'all think that 20 horses running in the Derby is just fine.  Sad.

PISTOL9

From: PISTOL9

5/5/19

What happened with MS and Wow can happen in a 5 horse field.  Now if they went down, that is something different.  Thankfully, that did not happen.  Some of these horses are amazing, makes me think of Afleet Alex.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

5/5/19

You said:    We can debate this until the cows come home,

Thanks for the input and time to share! You don't know this but  THE cows have come home

on here many times, sometimes its the same cows and other times its new cows

Since the race yesterday in some threads its been mentioned 20 horse field, slop tracks.

For me its a given and its obvious and there is nothing left to debate and many are emotionally

drained on here, many had the 7 in their bets. it is an important subject no doubt about it.

Many take a break on here on Sundays after a big race.

Northof64

From: Northof64

5/6/19

14 would be just fine with me.

GoForGin

From: GoForGin

5/6/19

I get it, that even in a smaller field, an interference could occur on the turn, heading for home. But far less likely. As I mentioned in the OP, my humble opinion is that 20 is just too many. I know it’s “about the Benjamin’s”, but there were several horses running that had no business being in the race ...

GoForGin

From: GoForGin

5/6/19

I don’t visit this site as much as I’d like to, so if the topic had been discussed, ad nauseam, mea culpa.  And you’re correct; taking a day off / break was probably what I needed.

I’ve been following the Derby on and off since Proud Clarion won, back in the ‘60’s. I’m certainly no expert, nor do I have a perfect remedy. But logic tells me, that if every other major horse race (in the US, at least) restricts the entrants to 14, why not the Derby? If you think of another sport whose participants race around an oval track (NASCAR), it does not invite more cars to run in a big race; the Daytona 500, e.g.

If the KY Racehorse Commission (and all other states where thoroughbreds are ran) really wants to promote safety, then reduce the field ...

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

5/6/19

GoForGin said...

If the KY Racehorse Commission (and all other states where thoroughbreds are ran) really wants to promote safety, then reduce the field ...

U.S. racing will always be a bit of a clown show, because they need to quit stacking NSAIDs with Lasix. 

Honorable racing is all about putting the horse first, and Stoute, Waller, Gosden and many others do that.  

Horses of this class do not need drugs to compete.  If they do, they aren't the class and we certainly have no class by doing it to them.

Winx, Ulysses, Mongolian Saturday, etc. and horses all over the world run w/out lasix.  Compare the amount of times Winx raced on 3 weeks rest and how many times Justify was able to do it.   

Gerh

From: Gerh

5/6/19

Well,after Saturday,we know that 19 is too many

Gerh

From: Gerh

5/6/19

Come on Winter.You can’t mention Winx in the same sentence as Justify.He doesn’t even come close lol

zambito

From: zambito

5/7/19

The amount of horses in the race was irrelevant to the outcome.  The number 7 horse was alone in the front and had the entire track to himself.  War of Will was coming to his right to attempt a move. When Maximum Security veered there were 3 horses to his right for a total of 4 horses involved in the incident. How many horses would you like the race to be... No more than 2 ??

The Arc has had several disqualifications and has survived just fine with large fields. 

Cadum finished first in 1925, but he was relegated to second place for hampering Priori. 

Midnight Sun dead-heated for first in 1959, but he was placed second for hampering Saint Crespin. 

 Sagace finished first in 1985, but he was demoted to second for bumping Rainbow Quest. 
 

  • Edited May 7, 2019 8:38 am  by  zambito
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