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IMHO less than 20, say 14
Less breeding/less foal population
Less put in auction
More home breds kept
Less people getting into racing ownership
Auction prices would go down
Derby attraction for general population*, and perhaps world wide would deminish
* Not the infield
Handle and advertising would diminish
Preakness and Belmont Stakes would be devalued on many fronts
Cause a lot of yawning
Uhhhh....i'm guessing.....you're thinking, 14's too few from that post??
DogsUp said...Cause a lot of yawning
Better than horror. I wince at the start of EVERY Ky Derby, not about who is going to win but that everyone comes home safe. I don't like chaos nor do I like demolition derby type events.
I was at Oaklawn watching when Eight Belles went down. I had to run out into the parking lot to throw up. I get sick when I see stuff like that. Larry jones and everyone in that barn was shell shocked and emotionally stricken for quite a number of years after that.
I admit that I still get giddy on Derby Day, especially right before the race. However, I am also anxious about particularly, the cavalry charge around the first turn. I was reminded Saturday that the danger is not limited to that portion of the race. Yes, in my opinion, 20 is too many!
My comments on 20 field Derby to say 14 runners...above is what the reality of the Industry ..breeding, auction, sales price at auction, etc would be projected with mathamatically cutting the field by a third.
I'm not into Bull fights, bull runs, car races and release... let bugs/flies out of my house, car, camp rather than kill them.
See item 26... Regarding ...The Industry estimated facts.
I scream out loud too! No matter where I am.
Yes, 20 is too many, that's why it only happens once a year. And I say keep it that way, for the showcase it has become. Even among the knowledgeable people on this forum, it is the most popular racing event of the year, judging by the number of posts. If the prime concern is safety of the horses, make every race just 2 horses. Or better yet, run them all separately and award the one who clocks the fastest time. Still there could be breakdowns. For the safety of the horses, no racing at all is the way to go. But that's not what racing fans want.
twoshots said...If the prime concern is safety of the horses, make every race just 2 horses
I don't think safety of horses and human riders requires quite so much of an extreme.
But yeah, safety of the horses IS a prime concern, at least to me. :shrugs: Also, when they go down, usually the rider does too. Know any riders personally who have spent the better part of a year in rehab trying to regain the use of their legs? I do.
Our THRILLS aren't worth that. Sorry, there is absolutely no comparison.
Yes, racing has inherent dangers. But there is no reason not to do what is w/in reasonable boundaries to make it safer, without detracting from the overall spectacle of a big race iwth lots of neat horses.
It is only once a year, and eyes are on this race that watch no other. For that reason, it could wind up being the spectacle none of us wants to see. If eight Belle had collapsed in mid-race instead of off camera on the gallop out, there is no telling what the effect would have been. It took twenty something horses to breakdown at Santa Anita to draw national attention, but I guarantee, if someone had fallen Saturday when the foul occurred, it would have been catastrophic in more ways than one. Why risk that, by having horses and jocks do so many things they've never done before; distance, size of field, level of competition, all place an unprecedented level of stress for all involved. In my opinion, it is simply amazing luck that no terrible spills have happened.