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Belmont Stakes   Triple Crown

Started May-26 by Oldbettowin; 10480 views.
Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Jun-5

zowcownow said...

Maybe the best way to handicap the race is betting on the 4 jockeys who you "think" can win with a competent ride.   Lets see --- Ortiz jr (wins a lot) - Ortiz (wins a lot at Belmont)  - Lepareaux (really hot right now) - and Johnny V (Pletcher angle).  Ok I'll box these 4 in an exacta and call it a day.  No handicapping required.  

IF you think it's a jockey's race, then you would have to play Lezcano wouldn't you?  He's the top rider at BEL 

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

Jun-5

In a four horse race I woul 100% agree.  :D

cubs.fan

From: cubs.fan

Jun-5

Agreed. He'll be last, 15 lengths off the pace and pass Joevia in the final 1/16th to finish 8th.

zowcownow

From: zowcownow

Jun-6

Wiseguy angle......Ok....going with Tapit and Peter Pan angle.  Sir Winston, Intrepid Heart (tapit),  Tacitus (tapit), and Bourbon War (tapit).

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Jun-6

I like these on your list but just can't get behind Intrepid Heart too much.  I watched his Peter Pan a few times, he was only carrying 116 lbs and only at 1-1/8 and he was weaving and looking very leg-weary, almost drunk.   That is not something I wanna see in the Belmont where they will be carrying 126 and going longer.  
I feel this is a pretty serious consideration, which I normally would not negatively score IF the horse ran without looking leg weary.  I certainly would not be using him first for sure.  Breeding is one thing but it has to have proper reflection on the race track and this is not what I am seeing with Intrepid Heart.   I think it's because he only had 1 race at 2 years old (another negative) and speaks to "foundation".........foundation is proably the most important thing for a race like The Belmont Stakes.  It's more important than in the Derby or the Preakness or the Peter Pan. 

Yes, the trend is toward lightly raced horses, but Justify and American Pharoah were FREAKS.  If you think this one qualifies as that, then play him.    

Northof64

From: Northof64

Jun-6

I thought the same thing watching the replay.  He looked like a drunken teenager wondering down the stretch. I was going to play a box with him but now I decided to play Sir Winston and Master Fencer on top in some exotics in hope of an upset with the same 2 plus 4 underneath. I may not even have Intrepid underneath but not sure yet.  I like Bourbon War better even though he has taken my money too often already.

North

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Jun-6

You and I often see things the same way.  Glad it wasn't my imagination the bad way he ran.   If he had been carrying 126 I could have forgiven it, like I did for horses in the Derby.   But to run that bad and be carrying light weight....... I don't think Intrepid will be on my trifecta at all at this point.  Not after thinking about what I just said.   I'd rather take my chances with a horse I don't have enough data on, than one I do have data on and the data isn't good. 

Bourbon War is an interesting horse.  Every time he doesn't run well, his odds are low.  Maybe this time he gets it right.

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Jun-6

plus he's getting blinkers ...... I guess johnny v's idea.  ugh 

Gerh

From: Gerh

Jun-6

I prefer the other Pletcher but find it interesting that Johny V picked Intrepid Heart.

GamblingMel

From: GamblingMel

Jun-6

I'm taking a stand and going with Tacitus, despite my dislike of Mott's smugness re the whole KD debacle.   Thus, here is my $1 Superfecta bet:

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9, 8, 7, 6, 4, 2

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