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Belmont Stakes   Triple Crown

Started 5/26/19 by Oldbettowin; 15402 views.
Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

6/2/19

 

That’s interesting also.  I looked at some of message 69, not sure I understood everything but this is what I’ve got so far...

<1> Dam’s bms di over 3.00: Everfast (?—Infinity), Joevia (4.14), Master Fencer (3.38), Tacitus (4.00), War of Will (3.87)

<1> No stamina pts. sire side:  Everfast, Joevia, Master Fencer, Spinoff

<1> No stamina pts. dam side:  Everfast, Intrepid Heart, Joevia, Sir Winston, Tacitus

<1> 0-0 stamina pts., none in 5 generations:  Everfast, Joevia

+1 Conduit Belmont Winner:  none.

+1 War Admiral passing position:  BW, IH, Joe, MF, SW, Spin, Tact, Tax.  (All but Everfast and WoW)

+1 LaTroienne passing:  BW, IH, Spin, Tact, Tax, WoW

+1 Family 1X passing:  IH, Spin, Tax

+1 Princequillo passing:  IH, MF, SW, Spin, Tact, Tax

By my calculations so far that’s:

+3 Intrepid Heart, Spinoff, Tax

+2 Bourbon War

+1 Sir Winston, Tacitus

0 Master Fencer, War of Will

<3> Joevia

<4> Everfast

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

6/2/19

Starting to look like a Spinoff-Intrepid Heart exacta :D

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

6/3/19

Oldbettowin said...

Everfast, Joevia, Sir Winston, and Spinoff have no stamina points at all.

It won't matter with Everfast.  :)   

And I have a feeling Spinoff may surprise....you liked him right?   

At any rate, sire stamina doesn't win the Belmont Stakes. 
 

War of Will not only has broodmare of the year Best in Show, but BIS is the same family as another broodmare of the year, Better Than Honour.  High class female family there.     WoW also has killler high % of St. Simon (thru nearco and ND) ---- Both Secretariat and Ribot had their highest blood percentage coming directly from St. Simon and Galopin.  I knew this before the KY Derby and thought for sure he would do well, but we will never know now because he was interferred with.  I don't know how he will fare in the Belmont, but the horse is pure class.

Everfast's Dam is a Farish bred & full sister to Wilco (3rd to Lava Man @ 1-1/4 and beat Afleet Alex in the BCJ)---Wilco's sire Awesome Again (Everfast's BMS)  was the only Breeders' Cup Classic winner to sire 4 additional Breeders Cup Classic winners (Ghostzapper, Ginger Punch, Wilko, & Round Pond)  not to mention he won it in 1998 with possibly one of the best fields ever assembled beating Silver Charm, Touch Gold, Victory Gallop and Skip Away.   

So, I'll take a chance on Everfast hitting the superfecta for sure-----plenty enough classic influence there for my liking.  

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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

6/3/19

Oldbettowin said...

+1 Conduit Belmont Winner:  none.

this part is not correct

In reply toRe: msg 68
Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

6/3/19

hope they go with the trainer opinion on Tax. He is such a beautiful horse, would hate to see him ruined running this if he's not 100%

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

6/3/19

Oldbettowin said...

’d never seen a horse with muscle on top of muscle like that, it wasn’t natural.

You said a mouthful there. ;) 

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/3/19

I screwed up in message 75. I forgot Ruler on ice had almahmoud in his inbreeding
i didn't recall that and used information from a older page, sorry.

for sure he is the only one since 2000 and when i have time i will check earlier to make sure
this is the only one.

2011 belmont 

1st mr p/alydar14a 
RULER ON ICE G, 2008 DP = 6-1-9-0-0 (16) DI = 2.56   CD = 0.81
Horse Inbreeding Stats Crosses Lines Blood% Influence AGR
ALMAHMOUD da/g 7s x 7s x 8s x 7d natalma, cosmah  2d
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Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

6/3/19

Better Than Honour had TWO offspring win it but she’s not the conduit, that’s Torpenhow.  Or am I doing that wrong?

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

6/3/19

I don’t know.  When I first looked at the probables Spinoff immediately jumped out for several reasons but then when I look at the pp’s its all Tacitus and WoW.  

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