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Justify failed drug test in SA derby   General Discussions

Started 9/11/19 by beachwood; 2416 views.
Gerh

From: Gerh

9/15/19

Great points as always Winter.I just hope there are samples available to analyze.I wouldn’t be surprised if they were destroyed

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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

9/15/19

Gerh said...

just hope there are samples available to analyze.I wouldn’t be surprised if they were destroyed

oh dear.  don't even say that. 


$60 million in stud fees alone here.  Not to mention so many other awards and monies.   And possible hall of fame down the road.  

Serious stuff. 


It just goes on and on like this.  FB had another major security breach of phone numbers.  400+ million users.   No judge does a thing to  Zuckerberg ......one of my friends pointed out to my naive self that  Masters of the Universe don't get bothered....only time Masters of the Universe get in trouble is if they rip off OTHER  MOTUs, i.e. Bernie Madoff, the Pharma Dude.

Guess racing is the same.
 

Gerh

From: Gerh

9/15/19

As George Orwell said in Animal Farm

”All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others”

People were very quick to say that an asterisk should be put next to Country House’s Derby win.It will be interesting to see what these people say if this isn’t investigated properly 

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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

9/15/19

Gerh said...

People were very quick to say that an asterisk should be put next to Country House’s Derby win.It will be interesting to see what these people say if this isn’t investigated properly 

Country House won by default due to a disqual.  And when it comes time for the breeding shed, that will be reflected HONESTLY because that information is in the public record.

That is very different than people paying $150K to breed Justify to their mares ----  and that his high positive test in the SA Derby was an infraction and represented a banned substance and was covered up!
How would ya feel if you just spent $150K to breed to Justify and didn't know this?

You think Winstar didn't know about the test when they sold the breeding rights?    Smart people. 


 

Gerh

From: Gerh

9/15/19

“How would ya feel if you just spent $150k to breed to Justify and didn’t know this”

That’s easy-I wouldn’t breed to Justify for any amount.Justify’s physique has been discussed here with a certain amount of skepticism.If I had $150k to breed to a stallion,I would take my money to Europe.

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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

9/15/19

Gerh said...

“How would ya feel if you just spent $150k to breed to Justify and didn’t know this”

That’s easy-I wouldn’t breed to Justify for any amount.Justify’s physique has been discussed here with a certain amount of skepticism.If I had $150k to breed to a stallion,I would take my money to Europe.


I wonder how Coolmore is handling this news?  they paid $60 million......I wonder if they will get any cancellations on matings and such?

Gerh

From: Gerh

9/15/19

I have no sympathy for Coolmore.can only think that their greed won out over common sense.These guys are experts in their field yet this horse raised no red flags

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

9/15/19

I would breed to Run Happy(drug free) before many of the high profile stallions of today.

coolmore got their 60 million back some time ago. 3 matings a day during mating season.

Gerh

From: Gerh

9/15/19

Sea the Stars costs about the same as Justify while Golden Horn is considerably cheaper.

In reply toRe: msg 32
Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

9/16/19

Wasn't Ron Ellis banned from entering any horses into the 2017 BC races due to a posiitve for a trace amount of banned substance when his horse ran 2nd the year before?
 

Will baffert be allowed to have horses in the  BC races?  (since they are always bragging about integrity, etc. )

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