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Kentucky Derby 2020 DogsUp Diary   Triple Crown

Started 2/3/20 by DogsUp; 29606 views.
In reply toRe: msg 277
DogsUp

From: DogsUp

9/1/20

The scratch of Art Collector is unfortunate.  Thought the only one with PP to beat Tiz the Law. And if had run 2nd or 3rd create a dismal exotic return.

  • Edited September 2, 2020 5:48 am  by  DogsUp
DogsUp

From: DogsUp

9/1/20

They/PPs are on official Derby site.

Also listed are featured race PPs each day leading up to KDY  But have all entries before field selection and post draw 

Derby will used a 20 stall starting gate 

princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

9/1/20

And now Art Collector is out.....my top choice, and one that I had at a generous 33-1.  Tiz will break out wide, anything can happen I suppose.  But the morning line of 3-5 may be the lowest of all time!

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DogsUp

From: DogsUp

9/1/20

J J Castellano picks up his new Derby mount in Money Moves. Trainer Pletcher. Owner Robert La Penta substantial owner and would not put this 3 non graded or stakes race only, at a hip price $950,000 colt in as a vanity runner; or to get into the show. Albeit getting a stall in the new 20 gate has been a crunchy ladder.  

BTW: All races run at NYRA are replay free. Last race for Money was Saratoga, July 25, Race 8 as fav. Ran 2nd. Bumped gate, 3 wide mile 136, 150ish 9fl. Muddy drying. Take the bump, wide at distance, add Castellano touch to find 2fl more in the colt. I didn't leave JJ the rider out with his scratched mount. And I'm leaving him in as a Rock Hard Ten rider.

Hoofnote: I 'assumed the same position when Keen Ice with Javier Castellano moved past American Pharoah, with Victor Espinoza, to win the Travers Stakes. (d)

  • Edited September 1, 2020 8:19 pm  by  DogsUp
Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

9/2/20

DogsUp said...

The once a year Derby player (and there is a ton of them) will have TizTLaw a Rock Hard Ten bet.

Sort of like once a year forum guests.  :) 

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

9/2/20

chroses said...

Rock Hard Ten is one of the horses that was used to make the movie “Seabiscuit”

Interesting, C.   Thanks for that little tidbit.  I did not know that. 

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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

9/2/20

Wintertrian said...

I wouldn't leave Tiz off my ticket but I don't think he has to go first. 
I think Enforceable can run 2nd....reminds me a little bit of Firing Line.  

Of course I have to play my infamous homebred exacta box, but there aren't many homebreds this year...only 3.   

Art Collector
Major Fed
Finnick the Fierce

Looks like my homebred box just got a lot smaller w/out Art Collector. 
I will add 2 horses to it and still play a 4-horse exacta box.  Because.......my tradition insists on it.  :) 

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

9/2/20

DogsUp said...

According, we have substitute:

Max Player – Ricardo Santana, Jr. (Kentucky) – 60 pts.

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And statistically and arguably one of the best all time riders and Hall of Famer. Further, at great sacrifice to his heavy rider commitments.

 

Caracaro – Javier Castellano 60 pts

And looks like Castellano got Money Moves now that Caracaro is out. 


This might be a good time to write what jockey we would love to see win a KY Derby.   I now there is someone here besides me who like Talamo  and Paco, for instance.   The one thing that happened this year is we do get to see some jockeys who are not ALL just the usual big money riders compete in this race.  I'm looking forward to seeing them ride. 

And QUITE RELIEVED that Rosario isn't gonna be here, and esp. not on any horses I like.   I swear he's like bad ju-ju for me.  I jsut watched him take another horse, who goes wide, even wider this week, another one I had $$ on to run down others in the stretch and of course, Rosario angled him OUT .......OUT..........and OUT........he was practically not on the track anymore    LOL  

Espinoza isn't getting great mounts at DM this year......I keep looking for a good longshot he's on  to win. 
I never play CA, but the values have been very good. 

In a contest on my "oaklawn group forum" to do Churchill all week, so I guess I'll know how the track is playing soon although they will have it souped up for the Derby.    

If anyone notices anything worthwhile, post it up. 

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

9/2/20

http://www.horse-races.net/library/derby20-entries.htm

There is nothing missing from Cindy's site, at all, she's even got all the KY Derby pools, the prep races, anything and everything you would need for the Derby.  

Just giving credit where due........plus, we're on her forum.  :)   

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

9/2/20

Award winning Cindy and thoroughly thoroughbred comprehensive Tex do an excellent job and are arguably leaders among their craft in the industry.

The Derby and other Grade Churchill PPs I alluded to were well before established and final fields were selected and then drawn for post. Just Sharing info to get a jump on info when final field, Post, official M/L, scratches, jockey reassignments,AM works were Not Available. Yet. They included even all horses subscribed to the respective races, but ultimately not allowed. Pick & Pull info.

My Diary is to share what I'm thinking, learning, observing, and using and then doing about it...ticket construction.

Accordingly this morning I would share the info available and videos on the official Kentucky Derby Twitter site. One does not need to be a Twit/Twitter account holder.

Hey. Send me an email.

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