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From: smartyslew
3/28/21
Strategy or use in The Exacta or maybe both. Could have enough poinjts to get in .
How many are on your Watch list?
Like The King 104,Known Agenda 102, Rebels Romance 100,Soup And Sandwich 40,Sainthood 40,
Panadol 40, God Selection (JPN) 40,
| 2021 Kentucky Derby Future Wager | |||||||
| Official Field - Pool Five | |||||||
| # | Points | Pool 1 Final Odds |
Pool 2 Final Odds |
Pool 3 Final Odds |
Pool 4 Final Odds |
Pool 5 M/L Odds |
Pool 5 Final Odds |
| - | - | - | - | suspended | |||
| 2 | Caddo River 10 | 27-1 | 13-1 | 15-1 | 16-1 | 30-1 | |
| 3 | Collaborate 0 | - | - | - | 29-1 | 30-1 | |
| 4 | Concert TourX 50 | - | 16-1 | 17-1 | 17-1 | 9-2 | |
| 5 | Crowded Trade 20 | - | - | - | - | 30-1 | |
| 6 | Dream Shake 10 | - | - | 28-1 | 71-1 | 50-1 | |
| 7 | Essential QualityX 40 | 8-1 | 8-1 | 8-1 | 5-1 | 3-1 | |
| 8 | Greatest Honour X80 | - | 40-1 | 9-1 | 6-1 | 4-1 | |
| 9 | Helium 50 | - | - | - | - | 30-1 | |
| 10 | Hidden Stash 22 | - | - | - | - | 50-1 | |
| 11 | Highly MotivatedX 10 | 18-1 | 24-1 | 37-1 | 36-1 | 30-1 | |
| 12 | Hot Rod Charlie 110 | 34-1 | 40-1 | 35-1 | 53-1 | 6-1 | |
| 13 | Hozier 20 | - | - | - | - | 30-1 | |
| 14 | Mandaloun 52 | - | 42-1 | 16-1 | 17-1 | 30-1 | |
| 15 | Medina Spirit 34 | - | 24-1 | 25-1 | 39-1 | 20-1 | |
| 16 | Midnight Bourbon 66 | 59-1 | 26-1 | 41-1 | 52-1 | 30-1 | |
| 17 | O Besos 25 | - | - | - | - | 50-1 | |
| 18 | Prevalence x 0 | - | - | 14-1 | 29-1 | 20-1 | |
| 19 | Proxy 34 | - | - | - | 41-1 | 30-1 | |
| 20 | Risk Taking 10 | - | - | 25-1 | 42-1 | 30-1 | |
From: smartyslew
3/29/21
Final odds added. Looks like the betting pool like All Others #24 This Weekend
bet it down from 20-1 to 5-1... The favorite is Essential Quality #7 4-1.
| 2021 Kentucky Derby Future Wager | |||||||
| Official Field - Pool Five | |||||||
| # | Points | Pool 1 Final Odds |
Pool 2 Final Odds |
Pool 3 Final Odds |
Pool 4 Final Odds |
Pool 5 M/L Odds |
Pool 5 Final Odds |
| - | - | - | - | suspended | |||
| 2 | Caddo River 10 | 27-1 | 13-1 | 15-1 | 16-1 | 30-1 | 33-1 |
| 3 | Collaborate 0 | - | - | - | 29-1 | 30-1 | 36-1 |
| 4 | Concert TourX 50 | - | 16-1 | 17-1 | 17-1 | 9-2 | 5-1 |
| 5 | Crowded Trade 20 | - | - | - | - | 30-1 | 38-1 |
| 6 | Dream Shake 10 | - | - | 28-1 | 71-1 | 50-1 | 45-1 |
| 7 | Essential QualityX 40 | 8-1 | 8-1 | 8-1 | 5-1 | 3-1 | 4-1 |
| 8 | Greatest Honour X80 | - | 40-1 | 9-1 | 6-1 | 4-1 | 9-1 |
| 9 | Helium 50 | - | - | - | - | 30-1 | 28-1 |
| 10 | Hidden Stash 22 | - | - | - | - | 50-1 | 53-1 |
| 11 | Highly MotivatedX 10 | 18-1 | 24-1 | 37-1 | 36-1 | 30-1 | 25-1 |
| 12 | Hot Rod Charlie 110 | 34-1 | 40-1 | 35-1 | 53-1 | 6-1 | 12-1 |
| 13 | Hozier 20 | - | - | - | - | 30-1 | 44-1 |
| 14 | Mandaloun 52 | - | 42-1 | 16-1 | 17-1 | 30-1 | 36-1 |
| 15 | Medina Spirit 34 | - | 24-1 | 25-1 | 39-1 | 20-1 | 13-1 |
| 16 | Midnight Bourbon 66 | 59-1 | 26-1 | 41-1 | 52-1 | 30-1 | 27-1 |
| 17 | O Besos 25 | - | - | - | - | 50-1 | 50-1 |
| 18 | Prevalence x 0 | - | - | 14-1 | 29-1 | 20-1 | 21-1 |
| 19 | Proxy 34 | - | - | - | 41-1 | 30-1 | 51-1 |
| 20 | Risk Taking 10 | - | - | 25-1 | 42-1 | 30-1 | 30-1 |
| 21 | Rock Your World 0 | - | - | - | - | 50-1 | 31-1 |
| 22 | Spielberg 17 | - | 47-1 | - | 63-1 | 50-1 | 46-1 |
| 23 | WeyburnX 50 | - | - | - | - | 30-1 | 35-1 |
- Edited March 29, 2021 1:55 am by smartyslew
From: princeofdoc
3/29/21
Very interesting......their selection committee seems inexperienced, actually. I would venture to guess that at least 10, possibly 12, of these don't make the gate, and their odds are way too low. Spielberg at 46-1 AFTER the FL derby? I bet him at 125-1 before the previous prep, when he still had a chance!
Collaborate at 36-1?!? While Helium is only a shade less? Not surprised the All Others got a little more attention, the morning line was absurd. Not sure myself who might make the gate.....maybe Swiftsure, if Asmussen feels confident about his works to enter him in the Ark Derby? The foreign ones you named could enter and have a chance too. Maybe Baffert's Defunded, if he goes in the SA Derby? Keepmeinmind and Get Her Number with a chance in the Ark Derby....certainly as much as Caddo River? Rombauer? The bet down was definitely because of Known Agenda, but there is definitely other value there as well.
From: smartyslew
3/29/21
I couldn't believe in a Pool 5, 33 days before the Derby That all others odds dropped from 20-1 M/L
to 5-1. reasons Life Is Good is out, Most didn't see the Interview Greatest Honour's Jockey had with Paul De Luca before the race with the intent of Moving to the rail to take dirt , last race he almost stopped because
of dirt in his face and he didn't like it, That can backfire IMO, you can take dirt in the face at 10 miles
an hour or at 40 miles an hour, when he moved to the outside he wasn't his usual self, maybe he will be gun shy next time. also I think there are many North American Cappers That they bet #24 All Others
Because they Thought it was good strategy to bet a Foreign entry to win .Problem was for whatever
reason it got bet down to 5-1, including the FL derby winner, and many bet the odds were higher than 5-1.