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Kentucky Derby 2021 DogsUp Diary   Triple Crown - HRN Horse-Races.Net

Started 2/28/21 by DogsUp; 77973 views.
pianot

From: pianot

7/28/21

Probably enough to make it happen. Suspect 200k or brtter.

  • Edited July 28, 2021 7:59 pm  by  pianot
DogsUp

From: DogsUp

7/28/21

When I tutored under a local bookie and great friend in cases like this, and when there is gambling/bets: Steve would say-

'When there's a lot of money on the table; strange things happen.

Evidence not secured legally-no search warrant or probable cause, tampered intentially/unintentionally a judge usually dismisses on lack of , no or illgained evidence.

pianot

From: pianot

7/28/21

Dogs- u are correct, many variables that aren't nailed down, for this reason.  

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

7/28/21

The Ky racing commission was responsible for the chain of custody of the samples. No way they can present the second sample as bona fide certified lab results evidence. Tainted 

The court will throw out, dismiss, not hear the case.

The lab will lose the contract. 

Churchill Downs will have to make the results Official.

Lots a bad 'Blood Horse relationships and precedents will evolve. 

(d)

A motion to suppress evidence is a request by a defendant that the judge exclude certain evidence from trial. The defense often makes this motion well in advance of trial—if the defendant wins it, the prosecution or judge may have to dismiss the case.

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

7/28/21

The Lab loses a cushie contract. Depends on their state senator's power in the State House. He has to appease the commission 

'I've read...in "other states' where the state senator who would have a vendor contract gone South has a real clean up job on his hands to get forgiveness votes of confidencefor his loyal constituent- vendor.

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

7/29/21

The sample was under joint custody and taken to Baffert’s choice of labs where it was “damaged”.  It remains to be seen how it’s adjudicated but this was Baffert’s chance to clear his name and his people were at least partly responsible, probably mostly responsible.  Legal loopholes notwithstanding they’ll disqualify Medina imo.

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

7/29/21

The  2nd lab was agreed upon by the parties and selected with court monitoring and instruction.

 Different seperate labs. That I missed. 

My dumb girl friend read the follow-up lab testing  news story and thought the two Labs (arf arf) were...one golden and one chocolate brown.

  • Edited July 29, 2021 10:37 am  by  DogsUp
In reply toRe: msg 414
DogsUp

From: DogsUp

7/29/21

Hey Dr Vet I need some ointment
I'm scheduled for the 1st Saturday in May appointment
Rub a dub dub on the colts hind quarters
Who knew it would create such merky legal waters
Everybody but the $2 bettor put their 2 cents in, and hired a veter
All the horses and stables and even the mares got moved around like musical chairs
Headlines and stories.. horses.. drugs in the news
Gave more public exposure to the industrie's blues 

But the transportation agreement was there, they swore to the court they'd handle with care

Somewhere the racing gods (small g) used to breaking in a tangle
Managed to pull off results that created a mangle
Now the judge and the court and parties will meet
And the verdict will come down to a photo Dead Heat 
  • Edited July 29, 2021 3:22 pm  by  DogsUp
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