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Fla Derby   Triple Crown

Started 3/21/21 by Plus2lbs; 3921 views.
Pedigreestar

From: Pedigreestar

3/26/21

No they are not best pedigree to least. As per the numbers given in equibase logically from top to bottom as per Pedigreestar Analysis Best Pedigree can be for Sigiloso. But I have observed many times Pedigree is not active for certain period of time hence horse is not performing.   

Pedigreestar

From: Pedigreestar

3/26/21

If Sigiloso comes in the  money within first 4  and within 4 lenths to the winner then pedigree may be active and should be watched for future will improve for sure.

In reply toRe: msg 12
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

3/26/21

Because of Meds I  haven't bet to many races the last couple years and I haven't
Bet most of these preps, didn't bet last week not betting the preps this weekend
so don't confuse me with somebody on here that are Cappin These races,and compare it to me. If I do
start cappin I'll let you know and I have a toolbox full of tools that most on here use.
Here is a tidbit for the Florida Derby, I noticed First timers with no Lasix are low percentage
plays for the Prep winners, doesn't mean they can't win, odds are low.
5 entrants firsters might help for the win.  45% of field 
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Florida Derby First timers with out Lasix:
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Quantum Leap Last 2 L, L, Only win on Lasix, brk Mdn. in last
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Southern Passage last 3 ,L L L, only Win 4 back ,no Lasix, slop, no wins 21,
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Known Agenda last Lb, won by 11, Pletcher desperate only med race of 5, red Flag
6 entrants race written for ToD, imo
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Soup And Sandwich 2 for 2, L, L, Sprint Number 8 pts higher than Route
field of 3 in last, field of 6 in 1st
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Collaborate 2 races 1-1-0-0, Brk Mdn Last ..L, L
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RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

3/26/21

I am going with Spielberg for the win. I agree with whoever said he doesn't care for SA surface. If you look as his dry dirt form everywhere else, he is actually a nice runner. Soup and Sandwich is my live longshot. I will box those two with the favorite.

In reply toRe: msg 22
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

3/26/21

Here are the Bris Pars  For the Florida Derby

Greatest Honour 2 back, nobody else comes close to the pars.
doesn't mean its a one horse race

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Bris Pars : Florida Derby
E1  94 E2  103  LATE 93 SPEED 103   
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E1 94 E2  103   Late 99  Speed 103> Greatest Honour 2 back Holy Bull 8.5 f
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Plus2lbs

From: Plus2lbs

3/27/21

Way to go Chief..

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

3/27/21

Goooood going.

All NYRA colony jocks on the board.

This crop is limited. 

In reply toRe: msg 26
RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

3/27/21

Known Agenda ruined my exacta. I really didn’t like him here.

In reply toRe: msg 17
Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

3/27/21

Wintertrian said...

I was wavering between Collaborate and Known Agenda for the win..... decided to go with KA, I am not ready to put $$ on Collaborate with only 2 maidens under his belt

Nice to be right once in a while.   :)  right Chief? 




I had looked over past races and horses that won the races that the favorite won didn't win the FL Derby.  I figured he was due to lose one. That's why I said "he doesn't HAVE to win this."   I needed the win for a contest pick, so that's really only reason I looked at the race.  other race was the jeff ruby, everyone pretty much had Tarrantino......boy he sure didn't do well at all.  Dead last.   I didn't get that one right either though. 

 

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

3/27/21

Did you see the Interview with Ortiz before the Race ?

Last race when he stopped he was taking Dirt in his face and didn't like it

and he moved Honour to the outside in the clear and he took off running.

Today I'm taking a good break and moving to the rail where he will take dirt

to help him run thru it. In a 20 horse field you never know where you will draw

and he needs to run thru dirt. Only thing he was flat this time when he ran in the clear.

I'm nuetral if that helped him or not. Might be gun shy.

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