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Helium- Mark Casse runnner   Triple Crown

Started 4/4/21 by Wintertrian; 5351 views.
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

4/5/21

Wintertrian said:

My job this week is to rewatch the Southwest and Rebel Stakes carefully 

That's Your back in the saddle Sneaky longshot play and toss !

:)

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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

4/6/21

ChiefsCrown said...

Because this: Hole #2...Looking up Casse's runners, the last 10 yrs, he missed the derby in '11, '13, '14 & '16. He did finish ITM, 4th w/Classic Empire in '17 and 5th w/Danzig Moon (RIP) in '15. Other than those two he's had a 7th, 7th, 13th and 18th finish. Hope Helium does well, i do think he'll have a shot of blowing up the exotics come May 1. He will be overlooked by the bettors. I'll take a shot and say he's a +30/1.

Casse has Soup and Sandwich besides his Helium guy.  I like both of them, actually. 

In this moment I have to think that one of the Casse horses has to be a consideration to hit the ticket when all is said and done.  I think this one ran a better race than the FL Derby winner, but not taking anything away from the winner, Known Agenda, who has killer stamina sort of like Rombauer has, if you look at their sire side DP. 

There's a number of things that have to happen first, see if horses on the bubble make the gate, see if the track is going to come up muddy which will give some advantage to some of the horses on the list, etc.    Another one I really like for instance is OBesos.  He's pretty far down on the bubble though but we don't know what the attrition is going to be yet for those that have secured a gate spot. 

Gerh

From: Gerh

4/6/21

Looks like Leparoux will ride him in the derby per Paulick Report

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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

4/6/21

Gerh said...

s for long shots,Rombauer impressed me over the weekend.Good ride by Geroux

I have a feeling he is better for the belmont.  Was looking at timeform stuff and his last furlong isn't fast enough to win I don't think? He can take his time in the BEL and run em down because he has the lungs to do so. Of course so do many others, I have a feeling that is going to be the most exciting race of the TC series this year. 

This is why I hope O Besos gets in.  I think he ran the fastest adj. last furlong of any horse besides Known Agenda so far.....

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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

4/6/21

Thanks.

Gerh said...

Leparoux will ride him in the derby per Paulick Report

I don't know much about Lep to be honest.  What's the general 411 on him? 

Most people put a little more faith in jockey than I do........I think you gotta have "have horse under you" to begin with, as JV found out with Medina Spirit......he just couldn't get the horse to accelerate.  Horse didn't have it. 

Gerh

From: Gerh

4/6/21

For what it’s worth,I think Leparoux fits him pretty well.

Gerh

From: Gerh

4/6/21

I expect Rombauer to have more pace to run at in the derby

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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

4/6/21

Thank you again about Lep, and yes, you are correct about having more pace to run at.  Thank you for filling in the spaces of my brain burps.
I really respect your feedback. 

ChiefsCrown

From: ChiefsCrown

4/6/21

Definately in agreement on your post! Yeah, post position and track condition is a big part in betting. Forgot about S & S. Johnny V will be up on Soup? If Soup does win headlines read...."Soup's On"?

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