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2022 2-year-olds/2023 3-year-olds   Handicapping

Started 7/2/21 by smartyslew; 214228 views.
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Oct-10

I think Tyler's Tribe will be better at 7f -8f than 5.5f Looking over who's listed

to run. Many from over Seas And Speed Boat Beach 104 Beyer at 5.5 f  is listed to run

Tyler"s Tribe best 94 is at 6f ,better than his 5.5 f numbers. Of course its one tool in the tool box.

HORSE TRK DATE DIST BEYER FIGURE
Cave Rock SA 08 Oct 1 1/16M 104
Speed Boat Beach DMR 10 Sep 5 1/2F 104
Cave Rock DMR 13 Aug 6 1/2F 101
Munnys Gold MTH 17 Jun 5F 101
Hejazi DMR 10 Sep 5 1/2F 100
Cave Rock DMR 11 Sep 7F 98
National Treasure SA 08 Oct 1 1/16M 97
Echo Again SAR 20 Aug 6 1/2F 94
Tyler's Tribe PRM
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Oct-12

Looks like he likes S A more than Del Mar Maybe , I haven't seen the track variants yet. They Have been very Important

in The 3 year old races this year, might hold with the 2 yr olds.

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Oct-13

I liked this Candy Ride/Ebloussante (Vertigineux is her Dam)  who I had in my virtual stable.  I missed the race but he ran 2nd.  1-1/16th.  Desormeaux trains. 

Confidence Game.  
C, 2020 {4-r} DP = 2-3-10-1-0 (16) DI = 1.67   CD = 0.38 

Broke maiden at Churchill, then did horrible (5th) in the Iroquois but giving anotehr chance....runs off the pace.   I like the tracker types.  If he can learn to rally now........


https://www.pedigreequery.com/confidence+game2

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Oct-13

Also had this one:  Comanche Country(IRE)  BMS Shamardal
Who won the G3 Surfer Girl

I believe smartyslew had already mentioned, I  just go by who I put in my stable and dont' go back thru all the posts.  I dunno, this one probably has too much stamina for KY but maybe Belmont Stakes

(IRE) b. F, 2020 {4-n} DP = 1-5-19-9-0 (34) DI = 0.84   CD = -0.06

 

https://www.pedigreequery.com/comanche+country


 

Gerh

From: Gerh

Oct-14

Sadler’s Wells on both sides of the pedigree,gotta love it.

RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

Oct-21

I don't know if you discussed hum already, but what do you guys think about Loggins? I like his breeding, and his debut race was outstanding. He gave Forte quite a tussle in his stakes debut, while giving away a lot of experience!

pianot

From: pianot

Oct-21

I like the dam’s side a lot but I’m sure Smarty and others know more than I.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Oct-22

i like him a lot for a TC prospect next year. Sounds like Cox does, he is skipping the Juvenile and pointing him

to the TC in a recent interview. Said he has others for the Juvenile.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Oct-24

these are very good numbers for the Beyer system for 2 years this time of year for 8.5f races.  10/8/22 

Best Beyers : Leader Board

Main Track: more than one mile THROUGH 10/23/22 2 YEAR OLDS

Edit This angle worked great for the Juvenile Imo

All 3 Have 92 Beyers  or higher as 2 year olds at 8.5 f....... A positive Angle I  use for 3 year olds on the derby trail next year.

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Cave Rock                        SA Oct 8     1 1/16M        104              109E  2nd in the Juvenile

National Treasure            SA Oct 8     1 1/16M         97              94E  3rd in the Juvenile

Forte                              KEE Oct 8     1 1/16M         92                105E  1st in the Juvenile

Hejazi                               SA  Oct 8    1 1/16 M         91                102E

Loggins                          KEE Oct 8    1 1/16M          91  Skipping the Juvenile    108E

  • Edited November 16, 2022 12:44 pm  by  smartyslew
RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

Oct-25

Speaking of TC candidates, Pletcher released an impressive FILLY a few days back. Julia Shining, Curlin, out of the AP Indy mare, Dreaming of Julia, overcame a slow start to circle the field in an about 7 furlong race at Keenland.  You need to see that race. Dreaming of Julia was a really nice filly, and her daughter might turn out to be even better!

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