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2022 2-year-olds/2023 3-year-olds   Handicapping - HRN Horse-Races.Net

Started 7/2/21 by smartyslew; 257481 views.
princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

Jan-21

I remember that clearly.....and at the time, I thought it to be extremely strange.  I can't remember any other 3 year old being trained that way.  And it didn't bode well for the Derby.

RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

Jan-22

Can’t wait until Catholic Boy’s first runners come out this year!

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jan-22

I guess not, It isn't February yeyeset!

I can't wait either, I'm sure you scanned his progeny .

Any of them stand out ?

princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

Jan-22

First crops rarely excel, but could be different with Catholic Boy!  Besides, you need a new one as MTR is getting a bit old :)

princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

Jan-22

I'm rooting for Army Mule's first crop....

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jan-22

The new game is go to that first crop sire reported by people smarter then me

the fee will be cheaper like for Into Mischief , Tapit who excel at stud with a lofty price
first few crops a lot cheaper.

Another thing they figured out your top sires were speed horses at 2 years old

Like Mr P, Storm Cat, Danzig, Into Mischief, Candy Ride, War Front , etc

Most Derby winners are from early crop Sires,.

Somebody Tongue In cheek said Breed to all of the first crop sires and you will get

thebest sires down the road and drop the bad ones.

Somebody said its the new game in town.

today and by the time their 3rd crop races ,you have a good idea who to breed to and who to drop, if this is true 4th crop sires that are doing good will be scheduled at a higher price, others not so good will be dropped and decrease in the mares they cover

princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

Jan-22

All excellent points!

One of the reason I'm interested in Army Mule, as we never found out just how good he could have become

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jan-22

In the early fifties MLB was signing Bonus Babies like Dick Wakefield and Paul Petitt

For $100,000 signing , by the end of the Fifties they were signing 10 players for $10,000

each, thought the odds were better for one to make it to the biggies.

A breeder could breed to 50 1st crop sires to close to the price of one

top sire. Deep pockets savvy people just might be doing that today.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jan-22

1/22/23 

Santa Anita Race 6 Today 8.5f Dirt MSW

Bafferts Harlocap Won and Mandellas yellow Brick was 2nd.

BTW Bafferts 3 yr olds have to be dispersed to other trainers before 2/28/23

to be eligible for the Derby.

RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

Jan-22

Nothing to write home about, but Funtastic Again couldn’t have looked more impressive. He never got out of second gear! It is Turfway, so I don’t know if he will be as good on dirt. He’s tried it before, but he didn’t look like this!

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