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|L||Angel Of Empire 86-S,76 L,68, 69 L ^0||3 C||126||Cox Brad H. Fapp/Api N|
|Arctic Arrogance 94-S,99Sys-G2,90,79,90Mys ^1||3 C||126||Rice Linda Tapit/Caro|
|L||Banishing 96L MDN,78MDN ^0||3 C||126||Walsh Brendan P. Nor Dan/Api|
|Blazing Sevens 94 G1,86-Sys G1,84 Sys G1, 87MDN ^1||3 C||126||Brown Chad C. Curlin/ Mda D'oro N|
|Confidence Game 92 OC,82 OC,75 G3,80Mdn,71 MDN ^3||3 C||126||Desormeaux Keith Candy Ride/Bernardinji N|
|Curly Jack 82 G3,86 G1,86 G3,93 S,85 G3, 86MDN ^2||3 C||126||Amoss Thomas M. Curlin/ Mr P N|
|L||Cyclone Mischief 80G3,99 LOC,81 G2,77 MDN,84MDN ^0||3 C||126||Romans Dale IntoM/Bernardini|
|L||Determinedly 93L Oc,89 S,94MDN 7f,94 MDN 7f, ^0||3 C||126||Casse Mark E. Fapp/ Gone West N|
|Disarm 91MDN 7f, 76 MDN 5.5 F ^2||3 C||126|
Message 1604 is pool 4 Future Bets entrants for my Futures Player friends, without the odds,
Last year the first 4 finishers raced Lasix free 2 yr old thru the TC trail, This year more
Trainers are using L in Non point races and we will see how many non L make the derby field.
Compare their non L races to the L races to determine the spread if any.
The N on the right side are contenders with the Sire/ Bms nick that has won previous Derby"s
If a horse you like doesn't have a N along side it the Sire Line/ Bms Line has never won a Derby.
That doesn't mean it can't, One way to look at that is to see how many in the group of 20 doesn't
have a Winning derby nick, the more in the field will help its chances, Because of success There are
Usually More entered with a winning nick. In this pool 24 do and 15 don't. Only one Winner a year.
Another angle I like To use I must pick a Horse with at least 1 Stamina Chef within the first 5 generations
Going back 85 years less than 3 % winners didn't have a stam Chef within 5 generations and Because
of the window of time you can't go back further than that, because not enough stamina Chefs
to make a difference. Of course it isn't a lock, a percentage play. You can bet more than one horse to cover.
The El Camino Real Winner isn't Nominated, not in this pool, the Other 2 points race Winners Today are.
One other angle I forgot, We have never had a Derby winner with the Nearctic, Northern Dancer Sire line
Married to a Nasrullah Sire Line BMS, never, is this the Year. NO Nor dancer/ API or his sons
Not even Nor Dan / Seattle Slew ,or Bold Ruler Line, Or Nashua line.
Lets Turn it Over Nyquist is the only Derby Winner with a Sire line bred to Northern Dancer BMS line
That traces back to Nasrullah thru Uncle Mo, Caro , Grey Sovereign Son of Nasrullah, thats right I didn't
Bet him either . Forestry Is Nyquist's BMSire Son of Storm Cat.
First look at the Risen Star Points Race for The Derby Trail, More later
-- 3 entrants non Lasix: 9 Curly Jack, 10 Two Phil's, 13 Victory Formation
Entries On Our List : 4 Determinedly, 5 Harlocap, 8 Tapits Conquest ,9 Curly Jack, 10 Two Phils
13 Victory Information, who is the only entrant on the Beyer Leader Board 90 8f.(OAK)
|STAKES. 1 1/8 Mile Dirt. Purse $400,000. Risen Star S. presented by Lamarque Ford (Grade 2). FOR THREE YEAR OLDS.( (14)|
|1 L||Quiet As Midnight P3||122||Nieves Emanuel||Chatters Benard|
|2 L||Single Ruler EP4||122||Riquelme Jose||Desormeaux J. Keith|
|3 L||Shaq Diesel EP6||122||Beschizza Adam||Richards Renaldo|
|4 L||Determinedly EP8 3 pts||122||Gutierrez Reylu||Casse Mark E.|
|5 L||Harlocap E8||122||Velazquez John R.||Asmussen Steven M.|
|6 L||Angel Of EmpireP3 4 pts||122||Saez Luis||Cox Brad H. L|
|7 L||Sun Thunder S 4 pts||122||Hernandez, Jr. Brian Joseph||McPeek Kenneth G.|
|8 L||Tapit's Conquest EP3||122||Geroux Florent||Cox Brad H. L|
|9||Curly Jack EP6 L free 17 pts||122||Morales Edgar||Amoss Thomas M.|
|10||Two Phil'sEP2 L free 8pts|
|STAKES. 1 1/8 Mile Dirt. Purse $400,000. Risen Star S. presented by Lamarque Ford (Grade 2). FOR THREE YEAR OLDS. (06:14 PM) (14)|
|1 L||Quiet As Midnight P3 No Routes 15||122||Nieves Emanuel||Chatters Benard|
|2 L||Single Ruler EP4 50||122||Riquelme Jose||Desormeaux J. Keith|
|3 L||Shaq Diesel EP6 Claimed 4 times 24||122||Beschizza Adam||Richards Renaldo|
|4 L||Determinedly EP8 3 pts, S 50||122||Gutierrez Reylu||Casse Mark E.|
|5 L||Harlocap E8 85||122||Velazquez John R.||Asmussen Steven M.|
|6 L||Angel Of EmpireP3 4pts longest 8f S 60||122||Saez Luis||Cox Brad H. L|
|7 L||Sun Thunder S 4 pts g3 60||122||Hernandez, Jr. Brian Joseph||McPeek Kenneth G.|
|8 L||Tapit's Conquest EP3 50||122|
I saw A computer pick for the Risen Star from a race pace chart algorithm first 5 Harlocap, 13 Victory Formation-2nd
and 4 Determinedly-3rd all front runners and the Buzz Horse Closer #12 Crupi 15-1near the Back
Projects the lead 13-5-4-10-14 on the pace with 13 nipped by the 5 1st ,4 3rd.
how do you see it. or even the pace setup.
I like that trifecta myself.....
There is a lot of scenarios out there for this race and interest , that's good ,right, 14 entrants
Strong preps the last couple years for this track to make the Derby Field and be Competitive
One Scenario the Favorite Victory Formation 3-1 in Post 13 non Lasix is a bad post for the front Runner with
Speed in the 4,5,10 inside and they have a better shot to be on the lead at the first turn and other speed
in Post 14 turf speedster could outbreak him and get better position to the turn. However I notice many
think he is the class of the field and can get over and are looking for an Over Lay and I'm not sure
what they are looking for 5-1, 6-1.
Then There is many Picking the 12 Crupi 15-1 The buzz Mdn Colt who has been competitive
in 5 Maiden races and has a good closing Kick and using Lasix in his last race . Pletcher trained
odds are coming down.
Some of the entrants have graded race experience foundation that in the low places I hang out in
one Picked the 10 Two Phils 8-1 to Win, another picked the 9 Curly Jack 8-1 to win who has been off
since 11/22/23 and won a g3, 2nd in a G1 to Instant Coffee when 2 yr old.
The 5 HarloCap 8-1 is getting a lot of respect even from Computer picks with the change from Baffert
To Pletcher could be the Chalk post time,
The Tapit and Cox lovers like the 8 Tapit Conquest 6-1 for this distance.
If I was to play a longshot it would be the 2 Single Ruler 1x, 30-1 with the Strong Derby Nick: Fappiano/ Storm Cat lines I don't know the jock and he needs to be coming at this distance 9f for the big dance forward looking 10f.
EDIT Single Ruler #2 YEAH HE WAS COMING BABY finished 5 LENGTHS BEHIND THE WINNER Needs More Points
smartyslew said...National Treasure SA 08 Jan 1M 94
Update on Baffert horses: National Treaure, who seems to have more owners than I have fingers on both hands, has won exactly one maiden .... at 6.5F. Even money in the Sham, he ran 3rd, in a laughably short field, beating one horse who was vanned off, and the other one was longest odds on the board. Now 3 works since then, a 3F, a 4F and a 6F (fast) ........seems like they were *easing him* into working again. Now he's got this horse blazing 6F in 1:11.60. I'll call it early: road to ruin for this one. Lucky to race past 3.
And Cave Rock has had exactly one work since Breeders Cup, at only 4F.
Chad Brown's Blazing Sevens is working short little 3F and 4F breezes since the Breeders Cup.
Cox's Instant Coffee hasn't even worked at all since winning the LeComte.
Are these bears in hibernation or thoroughbred horses? LOL I used to worry about racing such young horses who don't have fully developed musculoskeletal systems. Now we are racing young horses without fully developed musculoskeletal systems who also stand around in the barn 80%++ in their lives. Its like human couch potatoes who don't een get their 10,000 steps in.
The biggest, best, prestigious, (money, residual stud fees, fame) race on the planet for owner, trainer, jockey, and even once a year bettor is just eleven weeks away.
These entities meticulously take step, by jog, by cantor, by breeze, by race.
The campaigns of Derby winners by same connections (right down to Doug O'Neill's brother purchasing at auction Nyquist and I'll Have Another) a great example.
In anything, and especially with an animal* key to the team: plan, implement*, communicate*, evaluations is what gets the roses.
And agree, 'some may be doing not enough, soon enough...but the recipe to get in the Derby and at the Derby finish line is not a constant practice.