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3/20/23
smartyslew said...
Last year 2022 Louisiana Derby
Last year Brisnet PPs had the trifecta in perfect order. Epicenter, Zozos, Pioneer of Medina. Just like that.
3/20/23
Last year Beyer Leaderboard this time of year. Louisiana Derby winner Epicenter 98
thru 3/19/22 Beyer speed figures for 3 yr olds, mostly route races... ** one turn mile, no 2 turn races yet
Messier | SA | 06 Feb | 1 1/16M | 103 |
Epicenter | FG | 19 Feb | 1 1/8M | 98 |
Forbidden Kingdom | SA | 05 Mar | 1 1/16M | 98 |
White Abarrio | GP | 05 Feb | 1 1/16M | 97 |
Morello | AQU | 05 Mar | 1M ** | 96 |
Simplification | GP | 05 Mar | 1 1/16M | 96 |
3/20/23
Message 1632 this thread Risen Star , the splits Suck big time
No body ran the last Q in 25.40 or faster, that is not a good prep
and on Lasix ,Single Ruler raced with lasix 3 times already. Suggest looking for troubled trips in Last.
3/20/23
STAKES. 1 3/16 Mile Dirt. Purse $1,000,000. Twinspires.com Louisiana Derby (Grade 2). FOR THREE YEAR OLDS. *Derby Curse, can win this race |
PP | Horse | A/S run up | Wgt | Jockey | Trainer | |
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1L2 87 | Shopper's Revenge EP 4 | 3 C 60 | 122 | Santana, Jr. Ricardo | Asmussen Steven M. br/nd curse* | |
2 96 | Instant Coffee P2 EP5 | 3 C 50 | 122 | Saez Luis | Cox Brad H. Nd/ BR curse* | |
3 85 | Curly Jack EP 5 Miler type | 3 C 40 nick | 122 | Morales Edgar | Amoss Thomas M. | |
4L1 88 | Sun Thunder S0 | 3 C 40 nick | 122 | Hernandez, Jr. Brian Joseph | McPeek Kenneth G. | |
5 L1 91 | Disarm P6 | 3 C 60 nick | 122 | Rosario Joel | Asmussen Steven M. |
3/20/23
smartyslew said...
Message 1632 this thread Risen Star , the splits Suck big time
No body ran the last Q in 25.40 or faster, that is not a good prep
The Risen Star wasn't a good race. But at least it was 1-1/8. I actually liked some of the races the horses who ran in the Risen Star raced in BEFORE the Risen Star, while they were still learning, and I believe they have matured since then and they also got something out of running 1-1/8. I really liked Tapit Conquest's Jan 21 race where he was learning to stretch out and how he showed at CDX before that he can stalk and then draw off and win by almost 4 lengths. All I was looking for at the time was improvement from a baby. He wont be 3 years old until.....tomorrow!
Single Ruler is so darn pretty.......it was hard not to fall for him. And I also love his Jan race....he wasn't even 3 years old until this week either! (March 17th). For him to have run at FG like he did, way back in January, tracking the pace and sitting right where you would want a stalker to be, in his maiden at 1-1/16th --- at that age, I thought was impressive and shows he was learning.
I kinda like watching horses "coming along".....I know US racing fans are so used to seeing fire-breathers coming out of The Baffert Program, which ruins them early, I have no such expectation, and like to see if they are coming around by the time they are going to run 1-1/8 and here, 1-3/16th. We will get to see if they have matured at all.
I think going for a new shooter here, to run 1-3/16th, with such a very long stretch that FG has (a lot longer than CD, OP or AQ) is a lot to ask. That is why I"m not going for the Pletcher or Disarm. I think they are not ready to do this yet.
So what do ya think?
3/20/23
Brad Cox has 2 in here that are Lasix free Who would of thought. LOL Louisiana Derby
Both have the the highest bris speed figures in the field and with out Lasix.
Which Lasix Horse will improve to jump up without Lasix and finish with the best numbers of their
careers to finish ahead of those 2 lasix free if there are no troubled trips is the question if you want to beat them.
I haven't got that far , Last year if there was a Pletcher or Cox L horse in a non L race thats who jumps up.
For some reason I don't know why ,it must be the feed, .
3/20/23
From my Message1798 above, all was on there before the race and
This was there Data : Ave Dist Pace Speed : Epicenter 102 102 87 96,Zozos 75 75 111 94, Pion O Med. 93 93 87 91 Came in Like clockwork and I didn't change it pre race, Some will be my own numbers from their mistakes
or I read it different. 4th number their speed number 96 for Epicenter
This was Bris numbers : not bad .filled the super
this was my Numbers :Last Q :Epicenter 9f 24.62 1/8 12.45, Pion Med. 9f, 24.68 1/8 12.21, Zozos 24.14 3/16 30.04
Picking Epicenterr E8 to Win on a fast track, E types win 40%/ Underneath Pioneer Of Medina, Zozos, Galt, Call Me Midnight, Rattle N Roll not fit for the win
6/ 2,3,7,8,9/ 2,3,7,8,9...... check back
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Not to shabby.