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2021 2 year olds   Handicapping

Started 7/2/21 by smartyslew; 108595 views.

From: smartyslew


Message 354 is our  Kentucky Derby to stretch out list and waiting in the Wings

to stretch out list .

Kentucky Jockey Club had 4 entrants from this list Waiting in the wings had the Winner

Smile Happy 1st, White Abarrio- 3rd, The Main list had Classic Causeway -2nd place

Howling Time -5th place. Boxing Those 4 paid the Trifecta; $1 pd $127.10


From: smartyslew


If you took the time to look over this list(message 352) for the Central Park Stakes Race 7 on the Turf 8.5 f, yesterday , this has the Male turfers on it . projected to move up. The first 4 finishers

were the only ones on this list Sy Dog 1st, Ohtwoohthreefive 2nd, Maseta 3rd, General Ken 4th

$1 Super $1520.00.

I suggest using my lists to see if they are entered in a race, It could be worth it.

I have found with 2 yr olds to have better luck with Boxes than keying, wheeling that works better

for me , 2 yr olds are growing and can take turns reaching the next rung on the ladder

Born January to June depending what month they start racing is tough to gauge where a horse is 

maturing. Keys and wheels work better for me with mature horses racing that are fit.

Once in a while and maybe one or two a year  will stand out and I might key them if I think they are special.

  • Edited November 28, 2021 2:13 pm  by  smartyslew

From: smartyslew


35-1 noon time PST today, 3 hrs to go.




I was a little surprised they left Corniche off, so I would assume he is gone for good for KD.  Glad to see they did that.   I did notice on the sires Quality Road  is pretty low so maybe that has some effect there, don't know any others up there with QR. 

I was not going to bet the future, but went ahead and put a small one down on Rattle and Roll.  Giant Game is not one I would bet for the KD  GC over an MTR does not scream that to me to bet on this far out.


From: DogsUp


Ahh Smarty...I do remember that post and it stuck ...Sy Dog

All know I don't bet numbers, silks, names, dreams, personal connotations. ..Give me PPs or give me death.

But....Some may recall the Dogs lives and is a native SYracusan.

I said throughout the 7 fl, why did you go against your hard and fast rule.. and bet Sy Dog who closed 10 far back...regretting every second. And it looked like he got beat not quite getting up in time.

  • Edited November 28, 2021 9:41 pm  by  DogsUp

From: Gerh


I am sure the courts will have to decide if Baffert’s horses run or not.I put a small bet on Giant’s Game with the field based solely on Romans.


From: smartyslew


Thanks for the video. Sy went wider than the 5 Grand Sonata and got there.

I didn't think he would. suggest watch the terrible trip the 5 got. Troubled trip.


From: smartyslew


Giants Game  85-1 in Las Vegas, down from last week, 100 +.

Why is that   :)




I really like Smile Happy. He gave away some serious ground, and still easily won that race at CD in his second start.  I think his pedigree can get him 10f. 


From: smartyslew


Bred for the Classics, Keep him off Lasix Like his sire Runhappy, many breed to

Run Happy , then they give the offspring Lasix, That's not the purpose I would use.

A strong PPNN (P/N) nick, 4 stamina chefs on the bottom, 1 on top.

Its obvious I'm moving him from waiting in the wings list to the TC trail list.