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2022 2 year olds   Handicapping

Started 7/2/21 by smartyslew; 170484 views.
princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

1/31/22

Part of it is, as Smarty says, due to the Baffert effect.....but also, there is not the same circuit as in the past, especially since the closing of Hollywood Park.  The maiden purses are much smaller compared to SAR as well.  And as races don't fill, owners have to make a decision to ship. 

It is sad, as I grew up going to SA, HPark, and Del Mar, with big crowds and fields

princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

1/31/22

They did run 1-2, but I didn't see enough to think that either are ready for the TC trail.....the winner may improve, or that race/workout was just to keep him fit, and he'll be the best in the TB Derby.  Still too low a price in the futures to have me interested

DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

1/31/22

& All...It's free to watch Tic Tok.

Watch it and muse if they/Next Gen would have a propensity to take an interest in horse racing, on line horse betting and even learning the fundamentals. This 'be US and world racing. 

RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

1/31/22

I struggle with this every day. The young generation is not a deep one. Too many are superficial and self absorbed. They believe they are entitled, and are not crazy about working to hard for anything. They have little appreciation for the past struggles, that led to life they now know.

The ones I coach, are unfamiliar with the greats of earlier eras. They want to be given credit for moderate success, even though they only put in moderate effort. Horse racing is one of those sports, that I don't think you can develop that real love, without some appreciation of its history. Too many of these young people believe that something only has value when they become aware of it.

Even when it comes to morality, I find too many of them satisfied with what is called "virtue signaling". They talk a good game, using sophisticated jargon, but are unwilling to put it in the human investment; the blood, sweat, and tears, required to effect action and change. Therefore, the difficulties they ultimately face, tend to be too much for them. 

I don't want to to be too general. I meet some very wonderful youngsters, but I find too many as I've described. I don't blame them, I blame us; the generation that came before, that in many cases tried to save the the challenges we faced growing up. That is a mistake. Those challenges were the exercise that strengthened our intellectual and psychological muscles. Anyway, let me get off my soapbox. I had a recent experience that has made me a bit touchy in this regard!

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

1/31/22

The young relatives are into Media games and Gambling on Media sports

and some are betting on the spreads  in sports and Prop bets and seem to like

that as being excited and not into Horses, The exception to that are the young

who grew up with Horse's thru those in the industry and/or Horse players. 

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

1/31/22

The winner is playing catchup after missing his last entry from spiking a fever.

I like Raes analysis of the race and the Gallop out.  and I agree with what you said.

His last 1/16 pulling away like that suggest he is going to like 2 turns. imo.

I like his Sires and Chefs CD scoring suggesting classic distance   CD = 0.59 .

with the Elite Tail female families in his pedigree and he has to prove that on

the track.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

1/31/22

That's a good point, Owners shipping else where.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

1/31/22

He might be a one turn specialist, see if he can stretch out and Mandella

won't push him if he doesn't belong on the first Saturday in May packing 126 Lbs.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

1/31/22

From Message 458 Results for the 1/29/22 Southwest stakes

I think this Message was very Helpful for the Southwest Stakes g3 

I thought it was helpful Highlighting a E6 type Newgrange having the best bris Late pace

number 100, after winning wiring the field in last race putting the field to sleep

with slow fractions with final Q better than anybody in this field most racing in the slop.
Derby Wannabe lists #6 Osbourne # 8-1, 8 Barber Road 5-1,add to list, omitted by mistake
Newgrange 1 of 3 on our elite list.

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/instant.cgi?date=2022-01-29&track=OP&country=USA&race=9&type=inc&print=on
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1/29 /22 Oaklawn Park Race 9,Southway Stakes g3, 3 YO'S 8.5f Dirt, 10-4-2-1 pts
There are 3 entrants on our Elite Projected 3 Year olds for 2022.: #2 Dash Attack 7-2, #9 Classic Moment 12-1,# 10 Newgrange 2-1,... L in last #9 Classic Moment, #11 Call Me Jamal..
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Derby Wannabe lists #6 Osbourne # 8-1, 8 Barber Road 5-1,add to list, omitted by mistake
last Race Smarty Jones 8f, STKS, $250,000  SLOP(7 from that race in here) 1-4,7,8,12,
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* Highweight 122
PP Horse A/S M/E Wgt Jockey                   Bris Trainer
1 Ben Diesel  10-1  3 C 117 Court Jon Kenton  84-sy Stewart Dallas
2 Dash Attack X   7-2 3 C 122* Cohen David         91 sy McPeek Kenneth G.
3 Don'tcrossthedevil  30-1 3 C 117 Vazquez Ramon A. 78 sy D'Amato Philip
4 Kavod  12-1  3 C 117 Arrieta Francisco   87 sy Hartman Chris A.
5 Costa Terra 12-1 3 C 117 Pereira Tiago Josue  84 g1 Asmussen Steven M.
6 Osbourne  8-1 3 G 117 Cabrera David          85 Moquett Ron
7 Ignitis  10-1 3 C 117 Contreras Luis       87 sy Lukas D. Wayne
8 Barber Road  5-1 3 C 117 Santana, Jr. Ricardo  88 sy Ortiz John Alexander
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