2022 2-year-olds/2023 3-year-olds [horse

In reply toRe: msg 902

From: smartyslew

4/27/22

Lasix Free Contenders. Never used Lasix in any race :

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IMO: They Should change the Rules to No Lasix in any race.
Stop these Trainers from racing in Lasix every other race when not

a sanctioned race. We Need Transparency for cappers. One might think

they are masking something and we just don't know.

Somebody Should ask Pletcher and Cox why do they do that

with Some of their crop and not others.

I don't like it when a Horse I really like races in a un sanction race on lasix

I wonder Why? Is He a bleeder or is something else is going on.

E1 E2/LATE SPEED PARS: 94 103/ 93 (103

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Epicenter 21a IP 164 Louis Derby 9 3/16 Rosario L free
23.67 47.65 11.99 36.16 54.38 102 by 87 90/106 (101
23.67 23.98 24.34 24.17 (3/16 18.22) Last Q 24.31

Zandon 4d S 114 BG 9f Prat Lfree

24.87 49.30 13.75 38.06 50.35 98 by

24.87 24.43 24.45 24.31 12.29 lastQ 24.45
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White Abarrio 9e S 112 flor D. 9f, fast in middle Gaffiolone L free

24.18 47.66 10.99* 36.55 50.64 96 by 96 110/77 (96

24.18 23.48 23.33 25.56 14.09 Last Q 26.84

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Mo Donegal 3g S 112 Wood 9f I Ortiz L free
25.07 48.76 12.50 36.03 47.96 96 by

25.07 23.69 23.74 23.53 11.93 Last Q 23.67

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Tiz The Bomb 3L BP 110 Jeff Ruby AW 9f Hernandez L free

23.96 47.78 11.58 35.89 48.60 94 by 86 93/105 (101

23.96 23.82 23.80 24.31 12.71 Last Q 24.87

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Simplification 16g Is 74 Flor Derby 9f J Ortiz L free

23.77 47.25 10.69 36.56 51.09 92 by 100 113/70 (93

23.77 23.48 23.44 25.87 14.53 Last Q 27.47

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Smile Happy 6d S 70 BG 9f Lanerie L free

24.34 48.69 13.02 37.86 50.85 94 by

24.34 24.35 24.33 24.84 12.99 Last Q 25.41
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Barber Road 4i C 58 Ark. Derby 9f R. Gutierrez L free

23.42 47.27 11.83 38.04 50.97 88 by

23.42 23.85 24.56 26.21 12.93 last Q 26.04

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Early Voting 9b B 50 Wood 9f J Ortiz L free

23.86 47.75 11.59 35.63 47.98 96 by

23.86 24.89 23.84 24.04 12.35 last Q 24.37

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Morello 6b IP 50 Wood 9f

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In reply toRe: msg 907

From: smartyslew

4/28/22

Has the Derby Nick : Sireline/BmSire line won a kentucky Derby
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Cyberknife Fappiano/ Mr P

Epicenter Storm Cat/ Fappiano

In Due Time Storm Cat/ Mr P

Messier Fappiano/ Mr P

Simplification Storm Cat/ Fappiano

Summer Is Tomorrow Danzig/ Nor. Dancer

Taiba Fappiano/ Api

Zozos MrP/ Storm Cat

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Edited April 29, 2022 12:33 am by smartyslew

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Msg 909 of 2540 to smartyslewsmartyslew

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From: DogsUpWired

4/28/22

In how many Derbies?

On paper one is favorite and one could quit running in USA with foreign jock

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Msg 910 of 2540

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From: smartyslew

4/28/22

Tail Female Family Conduit Won A Derby
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Name Tf family, (Conduit Classification) Conduit Name Derby Winner, only 4 this year.
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Tail Female Family Conduit Won A Derby (147 Derbys thousands of tail female branches )
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Crown Pride 5g (BS) Remembrance Twenty Grand 1931,

Cyberknife 8h (SP) Ophirdale, Whirlaway 1941,

Summer Is Tomorrow 20b ( BC) Highflyer, War Emblem 2002,

Zandon 4d (S) Tribonyx, (2) Real Quiet 1998. Majestic Prince 1969.

Edited April 29, 2022 2:21 pm by smartyslew

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Msg 911 of 2540 to smartyslewsmartyslew

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From: pianot

4/28/22

Which at this point looks anyone can jump up on this thing.

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Msg 912 of 2540 to DogsUpWiredDogsUpWired

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From: smartyslew

4/29/22

Foreign Jock ?

He could stay in the gate, Cut off, bumped bolt, run wide, hit by a whip etc, jock dumped

pedigree query site put in any derby horse name click on reports, select stakes races ,click on kentucky derby

the list has every derby race Mandaloun 2021 listed 1st at the top, click on his name , it will show Sire In To Mischief

Empire Maker BMSire it will show Storm Cat Sire Line for Into Mischief, Empire Maker Has Fappiano Sire Line

Thus Storm Cat/ Fappiano Sirelines a Derbt winning Nick, Authentic Is Next Storm Cat/ Mr P.

I listed the Nicks that has won at least one derby race entered, You can go thru and count how many

of each, It just an angle that won a derby entered this year. Or You can go to the Site triplecrownproject info Every horse

entered in any TC race is indexed for all 3 races each race listed in the order they came in back to the first race.

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Msg 913 of 2540 to princeofdocprinceofdoc

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From: smartyslew

4/29/22

Foal Date last 61 years of Derby Winners with the Dams age on The Foal Date
and The crop year for the Dam. 43 of 61 derby winners were in The 1st crop to 4th Crop

range. If a Winner has a Dam's age in double Digits 10 or more on the Foal Date or the 5th

crop or higher it goes to the who are they like 3 or 4 Stakes Winners a Known producer

Dam . I'ii mark the ones with The RF for either the Horse, Sire, Or Dam 6x6 or closer. a Derby Nick

I won't mark the horses with the Dam under 10, or crops 4 and Under.

-----------------foal date---------Dam age----crops

Mandoulon 3/18/18 7 2

Authentic 5/5/17 10 3 nick,Prince x fact

Country House 5/8/16 10 4 Rf Princequillo line

Justify 3/28/15 8 3

Always Dreaming 2/25/14 16 9 RF Something Royal

Nyquist 3/10/13 6 1st

American Pharoah 2/12/12 6 2nd

California Chrome 2/18/11 5 1st

Orb 2/24/10 11 4

Ill Have Another 4/1/09 7 3

Animal Kingdom 3/20/08 7 1st
Super Saver 3/18/07 12 4th- 3 SW BMS rf

Mine That Bird 5/10/06 5 1st Prince x factor

Big Brown 4/10/05 6 2 RF
Street Sense 2/23/04 7 1

Barbaro 4/29/03 7 2

Giacomo 2/16/02 12 5

Smarty Jones 2/28/01 9 2

Funny Cide 4/20/00 7 2
War Emblem 2/20/99 9 3

Monarchos 2/9/98 11 4

Fusaichi Pegasus 4/12/97 7 4

Charismatic 3/13/96 16 9 RF 3 lines Something Royal 2s

Real Quiet 3/7/ 95 12 6 Sire RF
Silver Charm 2/22/94 12 5 rf 1x Latroienne

Grindstone 1/23/93 12 7 rf Sire Unbridled

Thunder Gulch 5/23/92 5 1st

Go For Gin 4/18/91 12 4

Sea Hero 3/4/90 17 1x rf 9 1x RF 7 sw

Lil E Tee 3/29/89 7 2

Strike The Gold 3/21/88 9 4

Unbridled 3/5/87 6 1st

Sunday Silence 3/25/86 11 1st

Winning Colors (f) 3/14/85 12 7 rf

Alysheba

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Edited April 29, 2022 12:34 pm by smartyslew

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Msg 914 of 2540 to pianotpianot

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From: smartyslew

4/29/22

910 message updated !

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Msg 915 of 2540 to smartyslewsmartyslew

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From: Oldbettowin

4/29/22

Fascinating stuff. I know Better than Honour had two progeny win the Belmont with Jazil and Rags to Riches but has any dam ever come close to producing two derby winners that you know of?

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Msg 916 of 2540 to smartyslewsmartyslew

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