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NYRA and CDI vs. Beta Bob   General Discussions

Started 9/10/21 by SameSteve G; 19048 views.
Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

10/9/21

TexSquared said...

Churchill Downs and the Kentucky authorities totally botched this.  It's not like they didn't have precedent.

Exactly.  

You know I am almost thinking that racing wants to be "entertainment" so badly now that they actually enjoy all this gossippy intrigue.  You know, Baffert spinning his fairy tales, has all the makings of CSI crossed w/People Magazine....never a dull moment in horse racing!

....and Baffert walking around mumbling "why me, why me, why me" while other HOY trainers snicker in the background as he walks by because nobody has THIS many *accidental drug positives" that occur under the most exotic circumstances........and 20 horses are entered every year in the Derby alone, not to mention all his other bizarre barn/medication events (dead horses, lame horses, drug positives, etc.) for which it's never his fault.   

I was watching old episodes of A&E television series *Hoarders* and his denial just reminds me so much of their behavior/pathology.   No accountability there at all.   I honestly think he's ........well.........got a mental disorder. Even poor barn management can't create this much crap....it's like he's in a world of his own and now we are finding out just how much?  Add extreme smugness to the pathology...

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PISTOL9

From: PISTOL9

10/28/21

BB  BC warning

3 in Juv race on Friday Barossa Pinehurst Corniche 

looks like some still giving him good 2yo (Sf Racing Llc Starlight Racing Madaket S & Speedway Racing)

Sat

R4 Gamine

R6 Eight Rings

R10 Private Mission, As Time Goes By

R12 Medina Spirit

Not sure if or how I may play the 2 days.  I have like playing horses with TCL in ped, not sure with BB being the trainer, odds prob won't warrant it.  Looks like there is a P3 unaffected R7-8-9 by BB

TexSquared

From: TexSquared

12/3/21

Figures Kentucky rules left themselves wide open to this kind of technicality...

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/baffert-attorney-tests-on-medina-spirit-split-sample-show-betamethasone-positive-was-from-ointment/

They should have prohibited betamethasone, and not include the word "acetate".    Who's to say the next trainer or vet picks another illegal drug, picks a different compound to mix it with, and uses that to make the illegal, legal?

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DogsUp

From: DogsUp

12/4/21

My dialog in Kentucky Derby 2021 noted this ruling outcome.

And I am sure. Absolutely..sure...to the relief of every current trainer and owner of a race horse that they would not have to wake at 5 AM to head to their stable and start their full day worrying and wondering if an unintentional not internally administered drug (in the greatest of races no less) ...even the likes of Shug, Chad, Todd would know what their in for as a career debilitating action against them. I believe they are relieved of the potential ruling. 

My fine print mentioned Churchill shoots from the hip.

And even when they installed video racing working with state law...got it wrong.

All along The Downs just wanted to avoid getting negative pressure and drug taint on their skirt.

Their usual legal malaise is that they control and make the rules for the Derby, which are at other for profit venues; and couple with the Commonwealth Racing rules and then operate a capella. 

I'm not so sure that even a reversal will give Churchill some relief. Save; they 'gotta end up paying Baffert injuries and expenses.

Never mess with another man's dinner with impunity.

  • Edited December 4, 2021 1:00 pm  by  DogsUp
DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

1/12/22

All:

I've noted in my Baffert dialogs that Churchill shoots from the hip and often ends up paying restitution.

Bob is going after them for his rights and dinner.

Many ask why owners stick with Baffert: (not specifically a quote to the event)

Friends help friends move furniture.

Real friends help friends move bodies. 

princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

1/25/22

Yes, but SF Racing and Starlight are really taking this to the limit.....their promising colt, Newgrange, still with Baffert, shipping to Oaklawn for the Southwest, a points race for the Derby.  They invest so much money into their horses, and it seems to be such a gamble to stay with BB, especially with the Derby on the line.  Either they know something that we don't (that Baffert is sure to be exonerated before the 50 pt. races begin, or their friendship is far more entangled than we imagine.

It's a complete mystery to me

DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

1/25/22

Elsewhere here I noted state court ruled Baff (and AttorneyS) must first meet with NYRA. Which has begun. Monday.

Google Baffert News.

Owners can "switch trainers in mid stream."  

Dogs' take is that in life (and these dudes have plenty) relationships surpass the gold and stuff.

My friendships are enviable. So I take it that Baffert has Made very strong connections. But that 'be friendships.

And how it's done is one is there for the other.. No matter what.

Baffert didn't even want to go to the Travers with American Pharoah.. Rarely does NYRA circuit. So other than Belmont Stakes with the potential of culminating another TCer; and some select Saratoga 2 yr old races and fits in Spa biggies; he won't be dining at the track burger tent.

I think the biggie trainers are checking the waste baskets and feed tubs and AM shower hoses to double check that nothing like this will befall them.

There are actually trainers who have held a Vet degree.

As I said: It's not over til the overnurished lady sings 

Monmouth Park with now Casino, sports betting will attract Baff stable as trainer of record, and purses to subjugate Spa races. 

I got to lookup subjugate..LOL 

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TexSquared

From: TexSquared

2/9/22

Kick the can down the road again... keep putting it off hoping it magically goes away?

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/medina-spirits-derby-drug-positive-hearing-reportedly-postponed/

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