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I looked over them briefly, Smile Happy was the only one I was considering. Was 6-1 when I looked, so not great and not enough to bet this far out. I was going to do exacta with him but forgot. I bet Rattl n Roll, in Nov, but did not see any works on him on sheet so passed this time. Of course these days he could just come out for a 100-150 race and go right to KD with 1/2 races.
Looks like final odds went back up to 8-1, exacta 70 with field, no loss, better to wait to see if he qualifies and gets in. Smile Happys dam is a throw back with all those lines in the dam and tailing to Funny Cides line in the five gen ped. RFed to a couple solid full brothers
Me thinks the price is right...
A NEW CAR...
Or try a $2 #22 White Abarrio (Tapit/Into Mischief) / # 9 High Oak *( API/ Mr P) pays $15,165.40
for a higher price Car. * Sire lines
I really can't understand why any serious futures bettor would bet in these pools; the prices are so bad! Smile Happy at 8-1?!? He's been bet down to 16-1 at WH and Circa, which is still too low (and he's my favorite colt right now), and that's double Pool #2.
There may be some value in the "all others", especially since that category has the unusual attribute of including all the Baffert colts. An interesting proposition, as I do like Corniche, New Grange, Doppelganger, and Wharton, at least thus far
One angle in January is to bet a horse that doesn't make the field of 24 futures
at the sights you referenced , 5 to 8 out of this pool is a guesstimate to make the field
Pool 2 has been reported hitting the most exactas in the Derby, one might take a shot
at that here. 9 entrants boxed costs $ 72 @ $1 that's cheaper then what many lay down
on one horse in Vegas or Europe. $144 for $2 box or box more than 9.
or wheel one you like with all for $ 2 costs $46 bucks. lots of strategy's. $5 Wheel costs $ 115.
I do agree.....there could be some definite value in some exacta betting, certainly, as you have noted.
As regards the prices at Circa and WH, I have found the route to add new horses, so there is actually no instance of a horse not being available.
If you see a true UTR horse, do post and I'll try to get a price up :)
Main reason is those without access to LV pools. I don't think any of the sports betting places carry those do they? I don't think IN does which is closest to me, so CD is all I can bet. I have not bet much on them the last three years. None last year, bet one in Jan 2020 then KD got canned, the horse I bet on ended up winning the Met Mile.
For the price differences, Twinspires is a parimutuel pool, whereas LV is straight bet they do not have to payout all the money they make, they can set prices to entice more betting. Possible to make a killing or take a bath like in 2012.