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Travers Stakes   General Discussions

Started Aug-25 by Wintertrian; 2614 views.
In reply toRe: msg 8
DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

Aug-26

And Cyber and Epi are in BC Classic.

Win here and BC .. 3 YOHY.

Stud fee a plus

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Aug-26

DogsUpWired said...

And Cyber and Epi are in BC Classic.

 Rich Strike would be a good entry for that.   He's very much like Vino Rosso to my mind. Plenty of stamina there, similar to Cyberknife.  

If it rains, they will be off my ticket for the Travers though. 

In reply toRe: msg 12
Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Aug-26

Remember Travers of 2018, Chad's horses both ran 2nd and 3rd to last.  (Gronkowski, Good Magic). 
It happens. 

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Aug-26

That's a good point to bring up, the Runup at Monmouth at 9f is  probably different at Monmouth than at
Saratoga at !0f , and saying that I don't know yet, 6 f in 1.09*  for Cyberknife, and with Clay added at Saratoga's deep track
cosmetic adjustment  makes this angle a tough angle to compare, especially with different distances, its

kinda unknown in  my opinion. The pace in this race is tough to figure on a fast track let alone a off track .

Northof64

From: Northof64

Aug-26

Yes rain changes everything of course.  All you can do is look at what is on paper now assuming good conditions.  Heck if they have heavy downpours EV may just wire the field by keeping out of the kickback.  Hopefully the weather somewhat cooperates and we don't see a lot of scratches.

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Aug-26

smartyslew said...

he pace in this race is tough to figure on a fast track let alone a off track .

Gonna be hard to figure out the instructions the jockeys get, and who is going to send.  There's gonna be some fake-outs going on here.  Everyone will think EV is going to go to the front.  I don't think he will.   He tried that in the Wood and Jim Dandy.    At the increased Travers distance,  if he tries that he will be weaving in the stretch like he did in the Preakness.  He's a 1-1/8 horse.  If they send, he'll never make it to the finish line in a Win. I figure that is why he didn't run in the KY Derby. 

On an off track (and I wouldn't play at all in that case) I would have to upgrade Epicenter, Artorius, and Gilded Age  (maybe even Rich Strike but probably not)    

Has Zandon ever run on an off-track?  I don't remember. 

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Aug-26

Winter said,,      "I figure that is why he didn't run in the KY Derby. "

I'm guessing you thought I was talking about Early Voting, I was talking about Cyberknife !

Let me know, I better edit my message.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Aug-26

WOW Runup at Monmouth was 55 feet, 90 feet on a slow track at Toga in the Jim dandy 1.12.1 , 1.36. 2 Epicenter 107 bris 9f 1.48.4, 1st 11/2

at Monmouth  Cyberknife runup 55 ft. pace 1.09.4, 1.34.1,1.46.1 , 9f 1st by hd, 104 bris.

90 ft runup at Toga didn't help for time 9f 1.48.4 , bris 107,  55 ft runup at monmouth for cyberknife bris 104 on a speed track .

Bris awarded cyberknife a 104 with over 2 second  faster time , then Epicenter a 107.

They applied clay to toga yesterday ,if a fast track how does this change the track variant,  to compare to the Variant of the tracks

for the 2 prior races.  tricky.

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

Aug-26

Brown has 3 of the  8 entries.  US racing at its finest.  Gee, I hope none of Chad's horses or jockeys "choke" from the pressure.  [duck]

LOL

KonaNative

From: KonaNative

Aug-26

Atrorious has stretched out with every start. 

Looks like the connections decided not to rush him

For me he is my longshot win bet and exata with the fave

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