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Significant trainers have noted the track crunchy playing than yesteryears.
Derby winner exhibited an AM hoofing for the terrain.
And still cause to believe that the finish 1 2 3 is in numerical order at mile and eighth ..the bench mark of where to be.
Northof64 said...Cyberknife is progressing better than most here and I feel he is a must include
I thought about that, but Cox has been very *particular* placing this horse in just the right races, at Monmouth, CD and OP. In this case, because he won two G1s and a G3, it's more like a foregone conclusion to run in the Travers. I don't think Cox was saving his horse to particularly "target" this race.....just seems like more of a "default" entry. And finally, he's no Essential Quality.
I also dislike post #1 for him anyway, I think EV, Zandon, and Richie (who loves to run on the rail) are going to scoot over and unless Cyber can get out in front of them he's going to end up shuffled back and have to eventually go wide around the field midpack at some point to get back toward front. So I think they are going to *send* on him, while everyone will be thinking it's gonna be EV and will be faked out.
Artorius, if it wasn't a Chad Brown horse, with Irad aboard (keeping in mind this is a race at Saratoga! rah rah) would normally have M/L odds of at least 15-1 if not higher, being basically, just a maiden who has never won or even been in, a graded stakes race. (In which case, why not just use Ain't Life Grand?) IMHO, Artorious is going to find out what it's like to run against Monsters.
I agree about EV though, an extra furlong isn't going to be his friend.
Rich Strike did get a perfect setup in the KY Derby, but it's not like he didn't do any actual running. He can run. And extra distance will not hurt him. Just that he seems more like a Vino Rosso or Mo Don type which on the SAR bias, I'm not real excited about for him.
And keeping in mind Epicenter is very push-button under Rosario.
Obviously I haven't looked at PPs, past editions of the Travers, or the weather yet. Will do that late tonight or Sat morning.
And Cyber and Epi are in BC Classic.
Win here and BC .. 3 YOHY.
Stud fee a plus
DogsUpWired said...And Cyber and Epi are in BC Classic.
Rich Strike would be a good entry for that. He's very much like Vino Rosso to my mind. Plenty of stamina there, similar to Cyberknife.
If it rains, they will be off my ticket for the Travers though.
Remember Travers of 2018, Chad's horses both ran 2nd and 3rd to last. (Gronkowski, Good Magic).
That's a good point to bring up, the Runup at Monmouth at 9f is probably different at Monmouth than at
Saratoga at !0f , and saying that I don't know yet, 6 f in 1.09* for Cyberknife, and with Clay added at Saratoga's deep track
cosmetic adjustment makes this angle a tough angle to compare, especially with different distances, its
kinda unknown in my opinion. The pace in this race is tough to figure on a fast track let alone a off track .
Yes rain changes everything of course. All you can do is look at what is on paper now assuming good conditions. Heck if they have heavy downpours EV may just wire the field by keeping out of the kickback. Hopefully the weather somewhat cooperates and we don't see a lot of scratches.
smartyslew said...he pace in this race is tough to figure on a fast track let alone a off track .
Gonna be hard to figure out the instructions the jockeys get, and who is going to send. There's gonna be some fake-outs going on here. Everyone will think EV is going to go to the front. I don't think he will. He tried that in the Wood and Jim Dandy. At the increased Travers distance, if he tries that he will be weaving in the stretch like he did in the Preakness. He's a 1-1/8 horse. If they send, he'll never make it to the finish line in a Win. I figure that is why he didn't run in the KY Derby.
On an off track (and I wouldn't play at all in that case) I would have to upgrade Epicenter, Artorius, and Gilded Age (maybe even Rich Strike but probably not)
Has Zandon ever run on an off-track? I don't remember.
Winter said,, "I figure that is why he didn't run in the KY Derby. "
I'm guessing you thought I was talking about Early Voting, I was talking about Cyberknife !
Let me know, I better edit my message.
WOW Runup at Monmouth was 55 feet, 90 feet on a slow track at Toga in the Jim dandy 1.12.1 , 1.36. 2 Epicenter 107 bris 9f 1.48.4, 1st 11/2
at Monmouth Cyberknife runup 55 ft. pace 1.09.4, 1.34.1,1.46.1 , 9f 1st by hd, 104 bris.
90 ft runup at Toga didn't help for time 9f 1.48.4 , bris 107, 55 ft runup at monmouth for cyberknife bris 104 on a speed track .
Bris awarded cyberknife a 104 with over 2 second faster time , then Epicenter a 107.
They applied clay to toga yesterday ,if a fast track how does this change the track variant, to compare to the Variant of the tracks
for the 2 prior races. tricky.