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Belmont Stks DogsUp Delta Details   Triple Crown - HRN Horse-Races.Net

Started 5/21/18 by DogsUpBigE; 17675 views.

From: DogsUpBigE



Extremely doubtful D. Wayne would select New York jockey colony jock familiar with 1.5 Belmont oval to replace reg pilot Luis Saez.

As did Assmussen, for less experienced jockey Santana with NYRA leading jock Irad Ortiz Jr aboard Creator 2016; with win at the very wire. By a credit card.

Accordingly:  Saez is not a long ball rider this one and that makes Bravo...not the winner come the Run for the Carnations. And congrats to Saez for top ten honors 2017. Races and money won. (d)

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From: DogsUpBigE



2017 2:30

16: 2:28

15: 2:26 Amerc. Phar.

14: 2:28

13: 2:30

Weather Monday Tuesd. Some rain but month pattern now clear weekends and 79 degrees

Secretariat TC race won @ 2:24 about 79 degrees.

Maybe hat trick, Apollo, TC on 79 degrees day.

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From: DogsUpBigE


Baker's Dozen field could go to eleven with:

Winstar having ownerships in Justify and Audible. 

My Boy Jack perhaps skips Carnations Run/ Bel Stks and runs in 1.5 mil grass @ Bel. July then sites to Travers.


From: TexSquared


The common ownerships issue is covered here:

 Justify and Audible have the identical consortium so Audible should be out.  However, consider that there is no big bonus for winning a Triple Crown (other than that triangular bowl trophy). Owners are all about money and Grade 1 wins for their stallions.   They leave Audible in and he upsets Justify, then they have 2 stallions they can pump up next season.  Justify as your undefeated Derby/Preakness winner, Audible as your Belmont winner "who beat the once-undefeated Justify".  Patting yourself on the back....

The fans might be crying but the owners will be laughing all the way to the bank if the exacta comes up Audible over Justify.


From: DogsUpBigE


Spot on!  And a precedent of only running one; not a good idea.


From: GamblingMel


But wouldn't a Triple Crown winning horse command way more in stud fees -- taking the long range view -- than a Triple Crown almost-winning horse?      

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From: DogsUpBigE


Good Magic 

Johnny Vee rode this one in his Florida Derby. Pletcher. Win.

Pletcher / JV have First Call to owner Mike Repole.

Derby = above Vino. Trio Repole to Belmont.  Can only win if it is possible to herd a large field for 12 panels.

Jose Ortiz gets call from Todd to Good Magic.

Jose rode two jewels.

Great jock but race distance precludes win for Moon who has to be out front and tired his Preak.And

Jock not as experienced at the distance as well.

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G


Hey man, I fed your message (#7) into my Doggie Decoder ring that came as a free gift when I purchased my DogsUp Bobble-head & all it said was " go to the magic 8 Ball".



From: Oldbettowin


I called Miss Clio and all she said was "Giacomo"!


From: zambito


True is all about the Benjamins... But run or not the only thing that Audible can beat Justified is to a shower in the stables. He hasn't even got a workout in since the derby. It must have taken a toll on him.