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belmont stakes contenders updated conduit Triple Crown
From: smartyslew
6/8/18
using the dosage points or looking for classicity for 0-0 stamina pts is different.
use the cd and cmp index number together it is better than the cmp and dosage together
i found out the hard way with research.
From: smartyslew
6/8/18
free drop billy BS cmp 10-4-0-10-5 speed 14 stamina 15 index 1.20
his b is a 10 and his p is 5 with that 14/15 looks like balance the formula for the index is real high because of his B
that alone is a high index for the belmont winner. Check the BICSP for the break down.
restoring hope B cmp 10-5-0-6-5 speed 15 stamina 11 index 1.56
1.56 index i think would be a new record both of these with the 0 in the middle (C) are mostly sprinters
justify B is higher than his p but hes a front runner and has carried his speed 10f
and is the only one in the field with a winning cmp conduit for the belmont.
had to stop , i erased justify by accident and couldn't remember it. J
ustify cmp 10-3-4-6-7 speed 13 stamina 13 index 1.13, triads 17-13-17 ( that is positive) very balanced
- Edited June 8, 2018 11:31 pm by smartyslew
From: smartyslew
6/9/18
i think i said 1.56 index i think would be a new record both of these with the 0 in the middle (C) are mostly sprinter
i thought i sent you the bc sprint data back in the day when we were doing the bc races and that was long time ago.
you said as I don't see how that, plus his DI = 1.74 CD = 0.42 indicates a sprinter? i never said anything like that,
did you get the email i sent you about free drop billy.
From: Wintertrian
6/9/18
yes, i got it, I deleted my post here so never mind. And thank you. :)
I need to learn more about reading profiles.
From: smartyslew
6/9/18
from Bill Lathrops formula
Justify cmp 10-3-4-6-7 speed 13 stamina 13 index 1.13, triads 17-13-17 ( that is positive)
1h noontime conduit winner yes furlong distance 11.5
hofburg IS cmp 12-4-1-5-10 speed 16 stamina15 index 1.12 triads 17-10-16 (high in the wings B & P) balance 2d dazzling no=derby winners yes, furlong 11.5
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bravazo C cmp 6-3-4-6-6 speed 9 stamina 12 index .86 triads 13-13-16
A 10 no furlong 12.6
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Blended citizen BC cmp 8-6-3-7-7 speed 14 stamina 14 index 1.04 triads 17-16-17 ( balance & positive) 9e no, family yes furlong 11.83
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vino rosso C cmp 5-2-5-7-6 speed 7 stamina 13 index .71 triads 12-14-18
-2f no furlong 13.4
free drop billy BS cmp 10-4-0-10-5 speed 14 stamina 15 index 1.20 triads 14-14-15
4m no family yes furlong 11.3
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restoring hope B cmp 10-5-0-6-5 speed 15 stamina 11 index 1.56 triads 15-11--11
11 no family yes furlong 10.27
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1L no, family yes furlong 11.04
From: smartyslew
6/16/18
message 45 I added the cmp furlong distancefor each horse from the cmp guru's formula
gronkowski and vino rosso had the 2 furthest distances. (top 4 , 11.5 furlongs or better)
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-2f no furlong 13.4 4th place
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1h noontime conduit winner yes furlong distance 11.5 WINNER
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From: smartyslew
6/16/18
from message 19 top 4 for stamina number
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justify 13, gronkowski 14,hofburg 15, vino rosso 13,
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top 4 conduit classification
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justify CS, Gronkowski P, Hofburg IS, Vino rosso C
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From: Oldbettowin
6/16/18
Hey rob, dumb question, and I know that Mr. Lathrop is retired, but did he update his research after his original work? I think I read somewhere once that he analyzed something like 16,000 races to compile his original data. Just wondering if there have been any changes of consequence, or if that original data pretty much did the trick since we were already so far removed from 1900. I guess if the theories about mitochondrial dna are correct, they should be passing along the same ol stuff generation after generation, at least in lieu of mutations.