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From: 1872brynda12/6/19 3:40 PM 
To: All  (1 of 16) 
 10781.1 

I am starting to try to discover my Bohemian ancestry.  My Mother's maiden name was Brynda (Marie) and was born in 1912.  Her Father was born in 1872 in Bohemia and came to the U.S.A. in 1889.  He settled in St. Louis, Missouri and died in 1924.  His name was Charles Brynda and his wife's name was Anna.  My Mother had two sisters, Anna and Francis.  I think she might have also had a brother names Charles but I'm not sure of this.  Any help in knowledge of ethos surname would be greatly appreciated.

 
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From: Red Prince (CARROTTOP23)12/7/19 12:29 PM 
To: 1872brynda  (2 of 16) 
 10781.2 in reply to 10781.1 
Brynda? In colloquial Czech, being in brynda means being in a precarious situation. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/brynda has more on the meaning of the word.
 

 
From: 1872brynda12/7/19 12:42 PM 
To: Red Prince (CARROTTOP23)  (3 of 16) 
 10781.3 in reply to 10781.2 

Thanks, I think...Brynda is definitely my Mother's maiden name and I have my Grandfather's death certificate.  Strange colloquiums though.

 

 
From: Red Prince (CARROTTOP23)12/8/19 1:05 PM 
To: 1872brynda  (4 of 16) 
 10781.4 in reply to 10781.3 

You’re welcome. I mentioned it because people often want to know the meaning of their name. I wonder if the word is somehow related to the Slovak word bryndza, which is a soft cheese made out of sheep milk, but www.slex.sk/index.asp?key=bryndza also lists an expression “tahat niekoho z bryndze” which literally means “pull someone out of bryndza” but idiomatically “pull someone out of trouble”.

At any rate, I hope someone here can help you find out more about your relatives.

 

 
From: 1872brynda12/8/19 3:51 PM 
To: Red Prince (CARROTTOP23)  (5 of 16) 
 10781.5 in reply to 10781.4 

Thanks much...

 

 
From: Naartjie612/9/19 1:18 PM 
To: 1872brynda unread  (6 of 16) 
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Greetings from South Africa, I have Czech ancestry and some knowledge of their records (which are in general well kept, very detailed and becoming digitized and more accessible from year to year).

However, you need to know the TOWN of birth in Bohemia of your ancestor, as European records, unlike England from 1837, have no nation wide, alphabetical index to births, marriages and deaths, records were kept on a local basis. I see him in the US Federal census from 1900 which of course, only furnish country of birth and of parents. Naturalization papers, passenger lists on arrival, tombstones, cemetery records, obituaries and of course birth, marriage and death certificates could give you a town of birth. If he was in the Austro Hungarian army, the surviving Czech records are excellent, alphabetically arranged, and which furnish year and town of birth, occupation, physical description and service record and other data, they are known as Grundbuchblatter and are at Familysearch and other sites. 

Good luck with research and if I can assist further let me know.

Kind regards from South Africa, Naartjie + them fur angel BEASTS.

 

 

 
From: Mel (randm1979)12/10/19 7:32 PM 
To: 1872brynda  (7 of 16) 
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Are these Saint Louis Missouri U.S. census records for your family?

1900 -- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M38P-151

Family of Charles b1871 and Francis Brynda b.1870 with 2 sons born in Missouri, Frank b1893 and Charles b1899.  They'd apparently been married in 1900, so one or both of the sons probably had a different mother.

1910 -- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M21F-JST

Family of Charles J Brynda b1870 and F A b.1869 with 2 Brynda sons born in Missouri, F C b1893 and Chas b1899, and four other Brynda children also born in MO. between 1900 and 1910 -- Anna b1904, Fannie b1906, Wm b1908, and Rudolph b1910.

1920 -- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8ZG-8HV

Family of Charles J b1871 and F A Brynda b.1870 with children born in MO.: Frank b1894, Anna b1904, Frances b1906, William b.1908, Rudolph b1910, and Marie b. 1913 (your mother?).

 

 

 
From: ronsvec12/10/19 11:14 PM 
To: 1872brynda  (8 of 16) 
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I think this may be your grandfather, Charles Brynda https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/48161960/charles-j-brynda He was married twice, to Ann, who died in 1899. Then to Frances. I think that agrees with Mel's post of the census records.
 

 
From: 1872brynda12/11/19 8:47 AM 
To: Mel (randm1979)  (9 of 16) 
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Wow!  Thank you so much.  There is so much I don't know.  The 1900 and 1910 census is close but questionable.  The 1920 could be the right one.  The difference is the wife's name is F. A. and on Charles' death certificate the wife's name is Anna.  I suppose she maybe went by her middle name.  Marie's birthdate of 1913 is close enough to what I figured to be 1912.  The difference could be explained by which month fell when it counted.  The order of the female offspring is correct with Anna being the oldest and then Frances and then Marie.  Although I didn't know the male offspring which would have been my uncles, the names ring a bell like I heard them as a child.  Thanks again and I will continue to investigate. 

 

 

 
From: 1872brynda12/11/19 9:02 AM 
To: ronsvec  (10 of 16) 
 10781.10 in reply to 10781.8 

Thank you!  Yes, that is definitely my Grandfather who died long before I was born in 1950.  His birthday and death day are exactly what the death certificate says.  The married twice thing is of course news to me but the name, Francis Kratochvik is interesting because every New Years day when I was a young child my parents would take me with them to visit a couple's home in St. Louis and the name sounded like Kratoville to me.  I don't have the name written anywhere just the memory but I wonder if the spelling and pronunciation mesh.  The name Joseph Brynda is correct too for my Great Grandfather as it is shown on Charles' death certificate. All I can say is thank you so much!

 

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