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From: Bob (Bobbylee7) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by host12/21/17 10:28 AM 
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Alan Dershowitz: The Conflict Over Jerusalem Is All Obama’s Fault

 

This article was originally published by Gatestone Institute.

The US acted properly in vetoing a misguided UN Security Council resolution designed to undo President Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

First, it is beyond the jurisdiction of the United Nations to tell a sovereign nation what it can and cannot recognize. If Turkey, for example, were to recognize East Jerusalem as the capital of “Palestine,” there is nothing the UN could or would do. (Of course, most UN members would applaud such a move.)

Second, the resolution fails to recognize that it was the December 2016 Security Council resolution — the one engineered by lame duck President Barack Obama — that changed the status of Jerusalem and complicated the efforts to achieve a compromise peace. Before that benighted resolution, Jerusalem’s Western Wall, the Jewish Quarter and the access roads to Hebrew University and Hadassah Hospital were widely recognized as part of Israel — or at worst, as disputed territory. Everyone knew that any peace agreement would inevitably recognize that these historically Jewish areas were an indigenous part of Israel. They were certainly not illegally occupied by Israel, any more than Bethlehem was illegally occupied by the Palestinian Authority (PA). Both Jerusalem and Bethlehem had originally been deemed part of an international zone by the United Nations when it divided the British mandate into two states for two people — a decision accepted by Israel and rejected by all the Arab nations and the Palestinian Arabs in the area. Jordan then attacked Israel and illegally occupied the Western Wall and Jewish Quarter in Jerusalem, prohibiting any Jewish access to these holy areas, as well as to the University and hospital. Jordan also illegally occupied Bethlehem.

In 1967, Jordan illegally attacked Israel. Jordan shelled civilian areas of Jerusalem. Israel responded and liberated the Western Wall, the Jewish Quarter and the access roads to Hebrew University and Hadassah Hospital, thereby opening these sites to everyone.

That has been the status quo for the last half century, until Obama engineered the notorious December 2016 Security Council resolution that declared the Western Wall, the Jewish Quarter and the access roads to be illegally occupied by Israel, thus changing the status quo. This unwarranted change — long opposed by United States administrations — made a negotiated peace more difficult, because it handed the Jewish holy places over to the Palestinians without getting any concessions in return, thus requiring that Israel “buy” them back in any negotiation. As the former prime minister of the Palestinian Authority once told me, “If we have the Wall, we will demand much to return it to Israel, because we know Israel will give much to get it.”

By declaring this disputed territory illegally occupied by Israel, the Security Council enabled the Palestinian Authority to hold the sites hostage during any negotiation. That vote changed the status quo more than the declaration by President Trump. The Trump declaration restored some balance that was taken away by the Obama-inspired Security Council resolution of a year ago.

Why did Obama change the status quo to the disadvantage of Israel? Congress did not want the change. The American people did not support the change. Many in the Obama administration opposed it. Even some members of the Security Council who voted for the resolution did not want the change. Obama did it as lame duck revenge against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, whom he hated. His motive was personal, not patriotic. His decision was bad for America, for peace and for America’s ally, Israel. He never would have done it except as a lame duck with no political accountability and no checks and balances.

Before that Security Council resolution changed the status quo, I did not support a unilateral recognition of Jerusalem by an American president, outside the context of a peace process. But once that resolution was passed and the status quo changed, I strongly supported President Trump’s decision to restore balance.

President Trump has been criticized for vetoing a resolution that has the support of every other Security Council member. That has been true of many anti-Israel Security Council and General Assembly resolutions. The United States often stands alone with Israel against the world, and the United States and Israel
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From: smilingeorge DelphiPlus Member Icon1/6/18 9:08 AM 
To: Bob (Bobbylee7) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (2 of 61) 
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No

 

 
From: Ginger (TGANNON) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by host1/6/18 12:37 PM 
To: smilingeorge DelphiPlus Member Icon  (3 of 61) 
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No to what?

 

 

 

     

Psalm119:105 "Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light for my path"

 

 
From: SMollick1/6/18 4:51 PM 
To: Bob (Bobbylee7) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (4 of 61) 
 37937.4 in reply to 37937.1 

A very enlightening post. Thank you.

 

 
From: Bob (Bobbylee7) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by host1/8/18 10:20 AM 
To: smilingeorge DelphiPlus Member Icon  (5 of 61) 
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Hi, welcome to AAA, you mention your agnostic and you have a "Great Son" looking over you from above. Can you expand on these things please ?


 

 

 
From: Bob (Bobbylee7) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by host1/8/18 10:22 AM 
To: SMollick  (6 of 61) 
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A very enlightening post. Thank you.

bob>That article was sent to me by my Jewish friend Len. I think the article does point out some good things, however Jews are usually liberal in their political stance, I wonder what they think about this?


 

 

 
From: SMollick1/8/18 10:56 AM 
To: Bob (Bobbylee7) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (7 of 61) 
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The Jewish community is not monolithic. I happen to be Jewish (and a registered Democrat) myself and was quite troubled by Obama's anti-Israel stance.

 

 
From: Bob (Bobbylee7) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by host1/8/18 1:06 PM 
To: SMollick  (8 of 61) 
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The Jewish community is not monolithic. I happen to be Jewish (and a registered Democrat) myself and was quite troubled by Obama's anti-Israel stance.

bob>Would I be correct in saying most Jews are liberal and supported the dems/Obama in most things? 


 

 

 
From: SMollick1/8/18 1:12 PM 
To: Bob (Bobbylee7) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (9 of 61) 
 37937.9 in reply to 37937.8 

Probably so.

 

 
From: Bob (Bobbylee7) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by host1/8/18 5:06 PM 
To: SMollick  (10 of 61) 
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I bet your familiar with Alan Dershowitz, who wrote the article on this tread. He says he's Jewish, but he does not believe in God, I have heard of other Jews who say the same thing, have you? 


 

 

 
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