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Made it in again after days of having trouble with cookies, passwords, date/time. I called in a technician to help and he told me that the reason we talk about bugs in the computer is that in Silicon Valley there was a bug running around live inside a motherboard. A kind of wood louse.
Early spring here, very green but cold.
E, I once helped write to new sober people on a LifeRing buddy email system and not one replied. Very demoralising.
Let me look at threads I've missed and then post again tomorrow.
Love to you, death to bureaucratic form-fillers.
I'm always amazed how fantastic the recorder can sound when played at advanced level. Our local primary school employed a really good recorder teacher and although it was sheer agony listening to the 6 year olds starting out, by 11 some of them were good, and she would have her seniors play as well and some of them were incredible.
Perfect for early music of course. That medieval vibe is so comforting I find.
Scotland is supposed to be at its best in May. My experience of Scottish holidays has mostly been in July when it has treated me to the dual pleasures of rain and midges! I have been to the festival a couple of times and even Edinburgh in August has had torrential rain!
Makes me think of Archy and Mehitabel. I always loved the idea of Archy writing free poetry without capitals simply because a cockroach can't operate the shift mechanism. I heard Ian Mcewan speakon the radio. He has written a novella called The Cockroach in which a cockroach gets to be British PM. About right!
As for computers, what with bugs and mice and viruses it's all a bit vermin ridden.
Lovely to see you here, love to you too.
A cockroach or two in the Cabinet sounds about right. The last Ian McEwan I read was Saturday -- I should do some catching up.
Windy cold spring here, the Finance Monster breathing down my neck, just the usual stresses of freelancing. It is my birthday this weekend and I shall eat asparagus and artichokes with roast chicken in the back garden because we can't afford restaurants or fine dining. The neighbour has given me a a carefully chosen gift of a large ugly beer mug she spotted on sale at a discount. She bought a dozen to hand out to family and friends.
The Depression Monster seems to have gone dormant which is good news.
Love, bliss, ordinary everyday happiness etc to you
Roast chicken with asparagus and artichokes sounds pretty good. Happy birthday Mary. I always put some sprigs of thyme in my roast chicken - but I just read a recipe from Provence that puts in a cup and a half of fresh thyme - I'm going to have to try that.
Enjoy your spring, we're just moving in to fall and having some wonderful weather.
Happy Birthday to You! That meal sounds perfect, as long as I don't think about my egg-laying feathered friends in the garden too hard!
Bojo ploughs on as PM here, even though he has been found guilty of acting unlawfully by 11 high court judges. I don't suppose I'd be allowed to keep my job had I been judged in such a way. Off with his head. Send him to the Tower. Or at least wrestle him to the ground before he completely wrecks things.
My new mission is to drink more water. It might be my imagination but my brain feels much juicier.
Have a lovely time celebrating. x
Thanks, Brian -- I also like thyme with chicken and have a variety of thymes growing out in the garden: lemon thyme, orange thyme, variegated thymes. One of the staples, along with parsley, mint, oreganum.
Stopping drinking is hard, there is just no getting around that. But many of us here had done it, and if we can do it, so can you. First tries don't always work. One thing you could do is go to a doctor, there are things they can give you that make stopping easier. And if you can find a recovery group, that can help too - being around other people who are trying to stop is a big help. What you have to do is just keep trying. I'm hoping for the best for you.
Hi there spunkyblue
It is I'm afraid the nature of the beast. But the fact that you are even checking into a sobriety support group is a sign that on some level you want to stop. Therefore you have something to build on. It took me quite a while from knowing I needed to sort it to actually staying stopped, but i made incremental progress which built me up for the final push.
I really recommend Martin Nicolaus's book, 'Empowering Your Sober Self'. I found it really did give me some confidence that getting sober was actually possible. AA didn't suit me- I needed to believe I could do it by my own efforts without the inconvenience of having to drop everything and 'get to a meeting' which is more or less how AA works- and it does work for some people. But I had responsibilities that I couldn't just drop at a moment's notice. When using AA I would panic when I couldn't go to a meeting- then I realised I could stay calm and the craving would pass. But as Brian says meetings can also be very helpful.
The key to beating an addiction is somehow to stop putting the stuff in our bodies, which is apparently very simple but for some of us a complex rearrangement of our mindset - at least it was for me. Some people seem to 'just stop' but for most of us a few relapses are par for the course before we manage it- certainly they were for me, as I managed to finally and truly accept I was absolutely entrenched in a vicious circle that I absolutely had to break. I ate SO MUCH chocolate during the first few months of finally getting sober- but amazingly didn't put on weight. My theory was that my body was so used to getting its calories from wine that it took time for me to adjust to getting them from food instead. I also read everything I could lay my hands on to do with addiction and alcohol dependency - in fact I read addictively ( with chocolate by my side) Anything to keep yourself occupied, and my advice is don't feel you have to immediately catch up on all the sensible yet dull things you've been avoiding whilst drinking. Do nice things, even lazy things, trashy tv, daytime naps whatever it takes to not drink. There's a lifetime to catch up with your admin.
We have all been where you are- think of it as absolute evidence that you have to break the cycle. And the cravings you get are yet more evidence- so hard as they may feel bizarrely I found they actually shored up my resolve. It can feel like a bit of a white knuckle ride at the start, but it will definitely get easier.
Good luck, truly you can do this.