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The Spiritual man #2   Topics/belief

Started Dec-1 by PAULFROMNYS; 226 views.
PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

Dec-1

   28 The Spiritual Man man was made up of only two independent elements, the corporeal and the spiritual; but when God placed the spirit within the casing of the earth, the soul was produced. The spirit of man touching the dead body produced the soul. The body apart from the spirit was dead, but with the spirit man was made alive. The organ thus animated was called the soul. “Man became a living soul” expresses not merely the fact that the combination of spirit and body produced the soul; it also suggests that spirit and body were completely merged in this soul. In other words, soul and body were combined with the spirit, and spirit and body were merged in the soul. Adam “in his unfallen state knew nothing of these ceaseless strivings of spirit and flesh which are matters of daily experience to us. There was a perfect blending of his three natures into one and the soul as the uniting medium became the cause of his individuality, of his existence as a distinct being.” (Pember’s Earth’s Earliest Age) Man was designated a living soul, for it was there that the spirit and body met and through which his individuality was known. Perhaps we may use an imperfect illustration: drop some dye into a cup of water. The dye and water will blend into a third substance called ink. In like manner the two independent elements of spirit and body combine to become living soul. (The analogy fails in that the soul produced by the combining of spirit and body becomes an independent, indissoluble element as much as the spirit and body.) God treated man’s soul as something unique. As the angels were created as spirits, so man was created predominantly as a living soul. Man not only had a body, a body with the breath of life; he became a living soul as well. Thus we find later in the Scriptures that God often referred to men as “souls.” Why? Because what the man is depends on how his soul is. His soul represents him and expresses his individuality. It is the organ of man’s free will, the organ in which spirit and body are completely merged. If man’s soul wills to obey God, it will allow the spirit to rule over the man as ordered by God.

PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

Dec-1

   This speaks to GOD is Spirit.

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PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

Dec-1

   Spirit, Soul and Body 29 The soul, if it chooses, also can suppress the spirit and take some other delight as lord of the man. This trinity of spirit, soul and body may be partially illustrated by a light bulb. Within the bulb, which can represent the total man, there are electricity, light and wire. The spirit is like the electricity, the soul the light, and body the wire. Electricity is the cause of the light while light is the effect of electricity. Wire is the material substance for carrying the electricity as well as for manifesting the light. The combination of spirit and body produces soul, that which is unique to man. As electricity, carried by the wire, is expressed in light, so spirit acts upon the soul and the soul, in turn, expresses itself through the body. However, we must remember well that whereas the soul is the meeting-point of the elements of our being in this present life, the spirit will be the ruling power in our resurrection state. For the Bible tells us that “it is sown a physical body, it is raised a spiritual body” (1 Cor. 15.44). Yet here is a vital point: we who have been joined to the resurrected Lord can even now have our spirit rule over the whole being. We are not united to the first Adam who was made a living soul but to the last Adam Who is a life-giving spirit (v.45). Respective Functions of Spirit, Soul and Body It is through the corporal body that man comes into contact with the material world. Hence we may label the body as that part which gives us world-consciousness. The soul comprises the intellect which aids us in the present state of existence and the emotions which proceed from the senses. Since the soul belongs to man’s own self and reveals his personality, it is termed the part of selfconsciousness. The spirit is that part by which we commune with God and by which alone we are able to apprehend and worship Him. Because it tells us of our relationship with God, the spirit is called the element of God-consciousness. God dwells in the spirit, self dwells in the soul, while senses dwell in the body.

PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

Dec-1

   "We are not united to the first Adam who was made a living soul but to the last Adam Who is a life-giving spirit"   This is pertinent ?to our Adam thread, yes?

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PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

Dec-1

   30 The Spiritual Man As we have mentioned already, the soul is the meeting-point of spirit and body, for there they are merged. By his spirit man holds intercourse with the spiritual world and with the Spirit of God, both receiving and expressing the power and life of the spiritual realm. Through his body man is in contact with the outside sensuous world, affecting it and being affected by it. The soul stands between these two worlds, yet belongs to both. It is linked with the spiritual world through the spirit and with the material world through the body. It also possesses the power of free will, hence is able to choose from among its environments. The spirit cannot act directly upon the body. It needs a medium, and that medium is the soul produced by the touching of the spirit with the body. The soul therefore stands between the spirit and the body, binding these two together. The spirit can subdue the body through the medium of the soul, so that it will obey God; likewise the body through the soul can draw the spirit into loving the world. Of these three elements the spirit is the noblest for it joins with God. The body is the lowest for it contacts with matter. The soul lying between them joins the two together and also takes their character to be its own. The soul makes it possible for the spirit and the body to communicate and to cooperate. The work of the soul is to keep these two in their proper order so that they may not lose their right relationship—namely, that the lowest, the body, may be subjected to the spirit, and that the highest, the spirit, may govern the body through the soul. Man’s prime factor is definitely the soul. It looks to the spirit to give what the latter has received from the Holy Spirit in order that the soul, after it has been perfected, may transmit what it has obtained to the body; then the body too may share in the perfection of the Holy Spirit and so become a spiritual body. The spirit is the noblest part of man and occupies the innermost area of his being. The body is the lowest and takes the outermost place. Between these two dwells the soul, serving as their medium. The body is the outer shelter of the soul, while the soul is the outer Spirit, Soul and Body 31 sheath of the spirit.

Fred (fnorthrup)

From: Fred (fnorthrup)

Dec-1

I believe so. Also, he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit. 1 Corinthians 6:17

PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

Dec-1

   Yes, I have an elder who would make me rich if I had a nickel for everytime he cited that verse.

Fred (fnorthrup)

From: Fred (fnorthrup)

Dec-2

Not many know that verse or the important implications. That is a good verse. I was with the Pentecostals for many years and never heard 1 Corinthians 6:17 cited one time. One spirit is the mingled spirit. Most people think the Holy Spirit is separate from our spirit. He that is joined to the Lord is one spirit!

Also, the Lord is the Spirit. 2 Corinthians 3:17 Does your elder cite that one?

PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

Dec-2

   Not as much, but he's big on 1 John 4:9 along with saying faith is living through another person.

Fred (fnorthrup)

From: Fred (fnorthrup)

Dec-2

PAULFROMNYS said:

but he's big on 1 John 4:9 along with saying faith is living through another person.

This is at least in the line of life. The way that leads to life is narrow and there are few that find it. Many believers are seduced to take the way of knowledge of good and evil. I would say that the vast majority of posts I have seen (not yours) are on the line of knowledge, the line of right and wrong Bible doctrines. All Jehovah Witnesses are deep in the line of the knowledge of good and evil and so are many others.

Matthew 7:14 Because narrow is the gate and constricted is the way that leads to life, and few are those who find it.

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