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Based on Malachi 3:16-18 I believe the Lord will harken to us as we consider his word together.

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Started Aug-24 by kennethr2 (Kennnethr2); 567 views.
PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

Sep-3

   I see no NT verses in your sharing, and you said: "The Father redeems us, so we need no one else".  Have you joined the orthodox Jewish community?

 

 
Len (AryehLeib613)

From: Len (AryehLeib613)

Sep-3

The verses speak for  themselves.

I am an Orthodox Jew and been active on Christian AAA Bible Forum for over 10 years.

Am I allowed here? I'm not trying to convert them or you.

Peace and blessing,

Len

PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

Sep-3

   All who love are active in converting to the truth regarding GOD.  Many are satisfied and resistant to any such input, but will be glad to declare the good news of GOD as best they understand it.

Len (AryehLeib613)

From: Len (AryehLeib613)

Sep-3

I started on AAA because I saw lots of false impressions of Judaism and wanted to correct them. Then people began asking me questions.

I don't know if you have such but I'll leave whenever I'm asked.

PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

Sep-3

   No, the only reason I put people out is for the continual insistence of their point of view trumping any reasonable dialog.

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PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

Sep-3

   Having said that:  Do you reject that Jesus is the Son of GOD, and that He is essential to any reality with GOD?

PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

Sep-3

  You shared:  We obey simply because God is God, we love Him and believe His commandments are for good.

   Is the source of such reality ourselves(((Isaiah 53:6))), or the tree of life.  It says: all we like sheep......................

Len (AryehLeib613)

From: Len (AryehLeib613)

Sep-4

It does not say so in your Malachi citation.

Here is where the Tanakh ("Old Testament") mentions the son of God. Sure God created sons but not the one you say was “begotten.”

Exodus 4:22 And you shall say to Pharaoh, 'So said the Lord, "My firstborn son is Israel." ' 23 So I say to you, 'Send out My son so that he will worship Me, but if you refuse to send him out, behold, I am going to slay your firstborn son.' " 

2 Samuel 7:12 When [David’s] days are finished and you shall lie with your forefathers, then I will raise up your seed that shall proceed from your body after you, and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be to him a father, and he shall be to Me a son; so that when he goes astray I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the sons of Adam. 15 But My mercy shall not depart from him as I withdrew it from Saul, whom I removed from before you.  

PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

Sep-4

   We all like sheep have gone our own way, and any true love, honor and obedience to GOD is far from us all.  Upon whom was all the accompanying iniquity of such life been laid??  Who alone truly walked with GOD under the law??

Len (AryehLeib613)

From: Len (AryehLeib613)

Sep-4

Isaiah 53:1Who would have believed our report, and to whom was the arm of the Lord revealed? ---  6 We all went astray like sheep, we have turned, each one on his way, and the Lord accepted his prayers for the iniquity of all of us. 

The speakers of vs. 6 are the same as in vs. 1 and the gentile kings of 52:15. The Lord accepted Israel’s prayers for the gentile iniquity.

Isaiah 61:5 And strangers shall stand and pasture your sheep, and foreigners shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers. 6 And you shall be called the priests of the Lord; 'servants of our God' shall be said of you; the possessions of the nations you shall eat, and with their glory you shall succeed [them]. 7 Instead of your shame, which was twofold, and your disgrace, which they would bemoan as their lot; therefore, in their land they shall inherit twofold; they shall have everlasting joy. 

Isaiah 40: "Console, console My people," says your God. 2 Speak to the heart of Jerusalem and call to her, for she has become full [from] her host, for her iniquity has been appeased, for she has taken from the hand of the Lord double for all her sins. 

Taken 1. From the Lord

           2. From the gentile nations.

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